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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    You helped me this evening. I was leading a prayer meeting at my church and was looking for a Christmas-themed word to start the meeting. 1 Timothy 1:15 came to mind from our discussion. 'This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save...
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    @Silverhair, Just in case you missed it: Matthew 1:21. '....And you shall call His name JESUS, for He shall save His people from their sins.' Obviously this does not contradict Eph. 2:8, but The Lord Jesus does not make salvation possible - He saves! Another Christmas text for you: "For there...
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    Old Covenant?

    The difference between the old and new covenants is that the old was conditional and the new is unconditional. Compare Heb. 8:9 with 8:11. 'For they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 'The most prominent feature of the Sinaitic ('first,' 'old') covenant is the...
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Here's a nice Christmas quote for you. Matthew 1:21. '....And you shall call His name JESUS, for He shall save His people from their sins.'
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    :rolleyes: You cannot see PSA because you have persuaded yourself it's not there and have blinded your eyes to it, exactly as JWs and Unitarians do the the doctrine of the Trinity. I expect they call is the Theory of the Trinity. Penal Substitution is all over the Bible eg. Romans 3:25-26...
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    Penal Subtitution was there in the Binle long before Calvin, and long before Satisfaction Atonement, as I have shown several times.
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    The Reformers corrected 'Satisfaction theory,' and by going back to the Bible were able to point to the truth of Penal Substitution. Not that PSA was a new doctrine; it was well-known in the early Church as I have shown elsewhere. I can post the relevant quotations from the ECFs again if...
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    What happened to 'In Adam all die, but in Christ all shall be made alive' (1 Cor. 15:22)? 'Therefore just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned' (Rom. 5:12). Yes, praise God! Though Calvin was by no means the...
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    “Although man had remained immaculately innocent, yet his condition would have been too mean for him to approach to God without a Mediator. What, then, can he do, after having been plunged by his fatal fall into death and hell, defiled with so many blasphemies, putrefying in his own corruptions...
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    Satisfaction Atonement

    Anselm's teaching on the Atonement is found in his book, Cur Deus Homo? or 'Why did God become a man?' Please note that in giving some of Anselm's teaching, I am not indicating that I agree with it as a whole. The following is largely taken from an on-line resourse by Sam Storms. Anselm begins...
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    Psalm 7:11

    I believe that the whole of the covenant with Abraham is a 'covenant of promise' (c.f. Eph. 2:12). There are multiple places in the N.T. where God's dealings with Abraham are described as 'promises.' (Acts 7:5; Rom 4:12; 9:4-9; Gal 3:5-29; 4:28; Heb 6:13-20; 11:9, 13, 17). The promises are...
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Well, it would certainly help, wouldn't it? That believers are in the new covenant is not at issue. But if Paul wanted to talk about the new covenant, it seems to me that he would have used the word(s) This is very interesting, isn't it? The Bible says, 'God from the beginning chose you for...
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    Do We Need to Defend the Bible?

    Excellent! My church will be letting the Lion out of His cage in the near future. We are proposing to call on every house in our area and give a portion of Scripture (Luke's Gospel) to each one. A recent survey of new Christians in the UK found that reading the Bible was, along with being...
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I don't think we have. I'll take a few of your assertions and look at them. That Paul is writing to believers (as he is in all his letters) is not at issue. However, the word 'covenant' (unless I have accidentally missed it), let alone 'new covenant' does not appear in the letter. Why? The...
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    Psalm 7:11

    @JD731, Thank you for your thoughtful post (parts of which I can definitely agree with) and especially for your closing paragraphs. In accordance with the sentiments expressed, I will not answer straight away, but give the matter some more prayerful consideration with a view to coming back later...
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    You are, of course, quite correct. When we look at any word, the context must be our primary informant. So when we look at the "interpretive translation," we immediately notice that the surrounding verses make no reference to the New Covenant. But when we come to the words 'from the beginning,'...
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    Do We Need to Defend the Bible?

    Famous words by C.H. Spurgeon: 'There seems to me to have been twice as much done in some ages in defending the Bible as in expounding it, but if the whole of our strength shall henceforth go to the exposition and spreading of it, we may leave it pretty much to defend itself. I do not know...
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    Penal Substitution Atonement (explain and discuss)

    As I wrote, one of us does, but I'm afraid it's you. I know that the Lord Jesus will be there - He's there now. I know the apostles will be there because they have trusted in the atoning sacrifice of Christ that they taught so clearly. On what basis will you be there? No problem to me...
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    Penal Substitution Atonement (explain and discuss)

    One of us has chosen a non-Christian philosophy of justice, but I think you'll find it's you. But certainly God is both just and righteous. Well, if you prefer, when everything unrighteous is cast out, then the new heavens and new earth will be empty. Your problem seems to be that you just...
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    Penal Substitution Atonement (explain and discuss)

    Your problem is that what you describe is not justice on any level, certainly not Biblical justice. If everything unrighteous is cast out, then the new heavens and new earth will be empty (Rev. 21:27 etc.). Also, Jesus Christ does not seem to have any part in your scheme. In it God will, I...
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