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  1. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Hi Bob: Until I receive substantive responses to my substantive questions, I must concentrate on other concerns which require my attention. Have a great day!
  2. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Yes. Please note the subject referred to in verse 3 is salvation. Therefore the faith for which we contend references saving faith. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly...
  3. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    If as you say, the Father was in Christ as He hung on the cross, then of what purpose was Christ’s painful plea: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” If the Father indwelt Christ, He most definitely did not forsake Him. Do you see the quandary of your proposition yet? Bob, has...
  4. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Hi Bob, Thanks for your prompt and zealous response! However, I cannot for the life of me find a translation which states God the Father was actually in God the Son on the cross. Can you find one? The NIV states it as thus: All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through...
  5. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Hello Bob, Again, thanks so much for continuing the dialogue. Hopefully many will be edified by it. Although there are several points I wish to address, I will first respond to this particular statement of yours: Let us look at a more complete representation of the verse you cited...
  6. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    It is true all men have some sort of faith, otherwise they would be gripped with fear should they drive, fly, leave their house, etc. Ron Paul has fear of our monetary system. He does not place faith in the U.S. dollar or its fiscal policies. Bottom line, the faith which men dead in sins...
  7. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    The context of Romans 11:34 refers to the eternal election of grace, the subject of Romans 9-11. No man knows why the Elect are chosen to be inheritors of eternal life in Christ when they are no better than those whom He prefers to withhold necessary saving grace. God has His reasons...
  8. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    I will let the Word of God respond, Re: God's thoughts: For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. (Jer. 29:11) As Christians we now know the thoughts of God toward us as revealed by His Spirit through...
  9. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    I thought it best to begin here for my response and repudiation. All mature Christians are to know the ways and thoughts of the Lord – especially those in positions of authority. The ways and thoughts of the Lord pertaining to salvation, man’s duties and damnation are spelled out in His...
  10. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Pastor DHK wrote: In order to justify God as a fair, equal-opportunity God who has no favorites, our Pelagian/Arminian friends insist God goes only so far when it comes to man’s salvation. Once God has done His part He leaves it up to man to do his part. Though God knows the doomed...
  11. Protestant

    We, both Jews and Gentiles, are Abraham's seed

    Yes. This was God's ultimate plan from all eternity. The Church of the First-Born, the true Israel of God, the spiritual seed of Abraham, the children of promise, His Body, His Bride, His members --- would be comprised of all the Elect from the beginning until the Last Day......whether they be...
  12. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Hello Bob: I have carefully reviewed your responses and thank you for answering each point. Although there was one area a bit fuzzy to me, on the whole I understood your POV. If I may, I wish to address a few key points you made: This is the same exact argument which Pastor DHK made...
  13. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    On the contrary, this is a simple statement of fact. Nowhere does it state, ‘You now have a choice to make.’ Furthermore, the verses following interpret Jesus’ teaching here: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because...
  14. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Pastor DHK wrote: Man, like animals, always thinks and acts according to his nature. Great whites do not good pets make. Man’s nature is sinful, as you rightly stated. How sinful? Jesus revealed to the religious they had the nature of Satan, their spiritual father. (John 8:44)...
  15. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    What direct question did I fail to answer? Furthermore, I have already proven the Pelagian and Arminian doctrines to which you hold: Pelagian: Man has the innate power and ability to believe, if he so wills. Original sin did not destroy that power. Arminian: God elects those whom He...
  16. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    You are too kind, my brother. After reading your many biblically astute posts I would say your theological I.Q. is already in top form. Truth is, we can all learn from each other......especially new arguments by which we can answer the many erroneous doctrines of our opponents...
  17. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Welcome back, Bob. If you would, please note in Matt. 18:27, Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. In your opinion, who is the lord and who is the servant referred to by Christ? Then in verses 28ff. the parable takes a dark...
  18. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Pastor DHK wrote: This is a classic Pelagian/Arminian argument: God would never command that which man cannot do. However, the question is not only concerned with man’s ability to comply with the command. It also concerns man’s will to comply with the command. Scripture is...
  19. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Euclid & Justification When God created man He created a rational, moral being in His image and likeness. Since the fall of man through Adam’s transgression, man has not lost his ability to reason, but he has lost his moral compass. Thus, man often comes to erroneous, irrational...
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    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    The question of salvation being all of God’s grace is not in question among the Ephesians. Not once does Paul allude to the possibility the Ephesians were taking credit for their salvation. Instead, in the first chapter Paul asserts the Ephesians believed the gospel of their salvation...
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