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    The sheep and the goats?

    Yes, parallel verses in Mark and Luke have kingdom of God where Matthew has kingdom of heaven. So at least some of the time the phrases are used interchangeable. You will note that those who suggest the phrases sometimes mean different things are short on examples.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    1) Please do not use the Old Covenant to define the New Covenant. Old Covenant no one was indwelt forever and ever. New Covenant we are indwelt forever and ever. 2) No flesh was justified by the Law. What your verse says is "if" you could live a sinless life, you would not die. The rub is...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I said no such thing. You made it up and attributed it me. You seem to have no regard for truth. Just what is meant by the vague phrase, fall away from the faith? Some wrongly use this verse to push the false doctrine of loss of salvation. But here "faith" refers to the gospel information...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    1) Why not stay on topic. We are not discussing that you think the kingdom of heaven refers to the millennial kingdom on earth. 2) The fact humans must be born anew to enter the kingdom of God (not heaven). is not in dispute. See John 3:5 3) The issue is that I believe "nations" in...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    Yes, both of us should desire that God forbid "Poppycock. 1) Does Matthew 27:52 "designate" the saints as Old Testament Saints? Nope so to make that claim is indeed poppycock. 2) Does Matthew 27:52 "designate" the saints as "believers" (disciples of Christ)? Yes. Basis: They had "fallen...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    1 Timothy 4:1 NASB But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will [fn]fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, Fn "i.e. apostatize" Just what is meant by the vague phrase, fall away from the faith? Some wrongly use this verse to...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    No individual was chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world, it was a corporate election of the target group of God's redemption plan. (Believers in Christ whose faith might be credited as righteousness) 1) We were once not a people, therefore not yet chosen to be His own...
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    The NASB: Is it really that difficult to understand?

    Yes, I am torn between the NASB and the NASB95. I love the NASB for getting rid of "begotten" for "mongenes" but other changes not so much. If the NASB does not read as I recall, I look at the 95 and sometimes find the translation choice I think is most accurate.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    The text does not refer to "the common people." Yes the text does identify the two groups, those that go to the right inherit the kingdom prepared for them "from or since the foundation of the world. Those that go to the left go into the eternal fire. That Sir describes the two "nations."...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    1) I did not suppose or imply any particular poster thought the division of sheep and goats was based on works. 2) I agree with your description of the human condition, we experience something, we internalize it, making some sense of it, whether we are aligned with reality or not, and then...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Again, Revelation 20:11 is non-germane to the question of when are the sheep and goats separated. 1) I am upset by your implication I "supposed" anything about (a)Son of Man, (b) throne of His glory, (c) nations, (d) King and (e) Kingdom. I see your supposition as a diversionary ploy. 2)...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    LOL, nobody said God chose "the whole body of INDIVIDUAL members." This is all they do folks, rewrite to misrepresent. They are deceivers. The old chestnut of Calvinism is to claim a corporate election refers to a group of individuals. That of course is NOT the alternate view! Here is a...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Scripture tells us that at Christ's second coming, He will separate the sheep and the goats. So the question is when do the sheep and goats get separated for those who physically die BEFORE His second coming. When we physically die and are unsaved, we go to Hades, but when we physically die as...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    1) We were once not a people, therefore not yet chosen to be His own possession. 2) We were once children of wrath, therefore not yet chosen to be children of God. 3) We were once without mercy, therefore not yet mercifully chosen for God's own possession. 4) We were once dead in our sins...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    Here seems to be a valid statement. God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4. The assumption is God chose us as foreseen individuals before we were created. What alternate interpretation is possible? God chose us not individually but corporately, before the...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    When are humans separated like sheep and goats? 1) Before they were conceived? 2) During their physical lifetime? 3) After they physically die? What verse answers that question? See Matthew 25:32
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    You have flamed out and crashed, unable to even address the many verses that prove your doctrines are falsehoods. 1) We were once not a people, therefore not yet chosen to be His own possession. 2) We were once children of wrath, therefore not yet chosen to be children of God. 3) We were...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    More time travel theology, more putting the cart before the horse. And note the fact every lost person is conceived in iniquity as a "made sinner" means they were not yet a chosen people, not yet mercifully washed in His blood. Ask yourselves, if you had been chosen for salvation, would you be...
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    AW Tozer and the Order of Salvation

    Thanks for addressing a bible study view concerning John 8:47. The Greek word transliterated "akouo" (G191) is said by Strong's to be used to indicate those "of God" attentively listen, so the usage includes both hearing God and making an effort to consider what is said. So I agree with your...
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    All that the Father Gives Me

    Understanding the biblical concept of the phrase “all that the Father gives Me” requires careful study of several passages of scripture. First lets look at John 6. In verse 37, Jesus says (NASB) “All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not...
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