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Hi 37818, That is going to have to be it. Merry Christmas!

My Comment: I said already that it doesn’t matter what you call it. When you receive the Holy Ghost, whenever that happens, it is a “Baptism”. Scripture called it the “Baptism of the Holy Ghost” in the verse you quote below (Luke 3:16). My Comment: This is the effect of Water Baptism. I have...

Hi 37818, Tongues. You made a good point when you said no one speaks in Tongues unless they are saved. I agree that is normal and I had already thought about that, however, unless an unbeliever, in this case, spoke in Tongues, you are not going to be able to maintain one Baptism. I am...

All you are doing is making an assertion here. No input. The Baptist post reformation ordinance of immersion and the Lord’s table means nothing to me either. That is not what a sacrament is.

My Comment: You then have two baptisms in error. Acts 10 says Cornelius was just (Acts 10:2,22) and he also had a vision “before” hearing the Word (Acts 10:3-6). A vision is also an extraordinary grace just like Tongues (1 Cor 12:10). It was the Gift of Miracles (1 Cor 12:10). Same verse. The...

You didn’t comment on this in #5 (post #3) so here it is: (5) Acts 10:44-46 - The Holy Ghost fell on Cornelius and his friends and they began speaking in Tongues - speaking in Tongues doesn’t mean you are saved. Unless you are Pentecostal, I think we would all agree with that. It is a Gift for...

You didn’t say what the role of the preacher was in someone’s conversion but I think you will understand what I am saying here. God used something physical (the Preacher) as an “instrument” to bring about something Spiritual. When a person comes to Christ through the preached Word, the preacher...

I agree. I was sure you would answer it that way. I’ll answer you in the morning. Thanks 37818!

Cornelius was an unusual case. As my post #1 and the first half of post #2 says, he could have been saved before being baptized, however, that’s not my view. I know the reason why you picked this place (Acts 10:44-46). This is different from our view on how Cornelius could have been saved. You...

Ok. I think you are saying it was in Acts 10:44-46. Did you read what I said about that?

Did you read my posts? Here’s a question: At what point was Cornelius regenerated?

37818, All I can say is go back and read my long post (post #2 and #3) where I go verse by verse on Acts 10. That’s the name of this thread. You think I didn’t talk about that? You didn’t read it. Read it and we’ll discuss it.

I’m not denying that we are to be immersed in the Holy Ghost. I am saying that immersion in the Holy Ghost happens simultaneously with Baptism with Water and the Invoking the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I’ve repeated this many times. You are saying you are immersed in the Holy Ghost but THEN...

Then you were Baptized twice and that is against scripture (Eph 4:5).

It’s a typo. come on. Were you Immersed in the Holy Ghost? Were you immersed in Water?

Not at all. We’re you Immersed in the Holy Ghost? We’re you immersed in Water?

No. Scripture calls it Baptism of the Holy Ghost: Acts 2:38, Acts 11:16, Matt 3:11, Mark1:8, Luke 3:16, Acts 1:5 and you said baptism was an immersion so were you immersed in water or the Holy Ghost? Heb 6:2 speaks about the “types” of baptisms (1 John 5:8) but says the “three are one”. What...

Then you are baptizing twice. Scripture teaches against it (Eph 4:5).

Do you believe in the Baptism of the Holy Ghost?

OK. St. Augustine doesn’t mean anything to you so neither will any of the other early church fathers. Here’s my questions: Do you believe in the Baptism of the Holy Ghost? Do you believe Baptism is an Ordinance?