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Augustine, Enchiridion 42 420ad “And this is the meaning of the great sacrament of baptism which is solemnized among us, that all who attain to this grace should die to sin, as He is said to have died to sin, because He died in the flesh, which is the likeness of sin; and rising from the font...

Hi Everyone, I wanted to answer one possible objection. If someone were to critique my last post (#49), they would probably make the argument that Rom 6:3-4 doesn’t mention “Water”. It mentions Baptism but not water. The argument would be that, well, Baptism doesn’t necessarily mean Baptism...

Hi Everyone, I thought it would be ok to answer this post here because it is about Baptism. I didn’t answer this very well because the thread was going to close and I didn’t have time to answer. This post was done on the first thread (Acts 10 - Cornelius - Question, post #135). Here it is...

Hi 37818, You are very sincere. No matter how animated our arguments get, I want you to know that I believe you are a good man. I’m glad we had this time to get to know each other a little better. Of course, that doesn’t mean I’m going to go easy on ya! Ha ha. One other thing. I really do...

My Comment: You said: God does the saving. Belief precedes salvation. You are not a Calvinist. OK. Right now I am still guessing. Maybe it is something like this: 1. You hear the word 2. God begins to work inside you (power) because of the hearing (God is doing it all when you are hearing...

Ok. I am missing something in your understanding. I apologize. It sounds like you are saying that none of the verses work for you. When you were talking about Mark 16:15-16 you said, “Believer's immersion accompanies the gospel and it's commission. And can precede regeneration. Mark 16:15-16.”...

My Comment: Mark 16:16: He that believeth AND IS BAPTIZED shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (KJV) Believeth Not = disobedience or refuse to believe (Strong’s #569)(also see John 3:36) It does not end the argument. Not at all. The formula for being Saved: Believeth...

My Comment: Same verse we use to prove baptism is necessary. You cannot get away from Baptism. Right in this verse it says “he that Believeth AND is baptized shall be saved”. It doesn’t say “he that Believeth only”. Precede regeneration? My Comment: I disagree. If you want to see how I break...

I don’t have a problem with Baptism of Immersion. I’ve said that before. I understand what you are saying. You are saying that the meaning of the word Baptism is Immersion, therefore, Immersion is the way the eunuch was baptized. I say no. He probably was immersed but it doesn’t say. You could...

It flooded the world.

I still don’t understand your interpretation. You quoted verses but you didn’t really explain. Maybe you can say more. No. The verse doesn’t say how it was done. No one else interprets it that way except your one version. Do you believe immersion does anything?

OK. You tell me. I know that but what I was getting at was that you cannot tell that he was immersed by the language used except with your modern version. I didn’t quote you on the Last thing where I said you had to hunt to find a Bible that used “Immerse” and you said: “Not at all.” Of...

My Comment: I know. They were in the ark. They didn’t get wet. I get it. They were still saved by water. It was a baptism because the water washed away sin. It was the same as when the Jews crossed the Red Sea during the Exodus. The waters parted and they didn’t get wet, the Egyptians got wet...

Hi 37818, I want you to know that I really do appreciate your questions. Honestly, I don’t think I will be able to convince you of baptism in all five chapters. I’m not sure what to say that I haven’t already said. It’s so simple that’s it’s scary. Maybe this will help: After the disciples...

Fine. What I am saying is that the one theme through the first 5 chapters of John regarding justification is Baptism. This includes John 3:3. Baptism, by definition, includes using actual water to bring about the inner regeneration. As I pointed out in previous posts, this doesn’t mean the water...

Hi 37818, Sorry I didn’t see your post for some reason. Let me ask you then: What is the context of the first 5 chapters of John? I’ll wait for your answer before I say any more.

Yes. The context of the chapter is about Baptism.

Baptism is mentioned 6 times in John 1: John 1:25 John 1:26 John 1:28 John 1:31 John 1:33 (2 times)

Hi 37818, John 1:12 But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name. John 1:13 Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. “Believe” is mentioned 2 times in John 1. “Baptism” is...

Baptismal Regeneration - Context in John The context of the first 5 chapters of the Gospel of John is the Sacrament of Baptism: John 1 – Jesus is Baptized (John 1:33) We are given “power” (Baptism) to be made sons of God (John 1:12) John 2 – Jesus transforms the Baptismal Waters into Wine...