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So He just threatened Moses. He threatens with no intent lol? Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

I don't deny limited atonement. I just define it differently. I take it to 11. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Hey I wanna come back here. So God can change His mind, just not His decrees. But isn't all history decreed in some sense? Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Hm the latest thing I denounced was eternal sec.. I'm with ya on depravity? Mostly. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

So if I'm truly saved. Deep down im just fighting my inner calvy. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

So all of history is not "written in stone"? Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

I'm not sure either. Maybe a rant on catholics. I need a good catholic rant. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Oh that wasn't as exciting. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Alright I'm gunna start a fire. Exo 32:14 God changes His mind on the calamity He was about to bring. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Intrigued I am. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Alright fine. I can concede that to semantics (semantics is the word I want I think) Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

I mean philosophy doesnt have verses. But anyway. Arminians / non cals do have scriptures for their views too. Quick q. Are non calvys saved? Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Well my two new favorite calvys, two different answers. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

You dont use modern philosophical jargon but you use the London Confession? Cmon man haha. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

As an arminian I don't disagree that those who are not saved are under wrath. The question for me is timing. It appears to me that in Calvinism. Before the foundations. Through no act for foresight, God selected His elect. He COULD have elected everyone. However he didn't. We are under His...

OK so you are indeed a compatabilist. God could have decreed all men come to Him most freely. However He didn't. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

So like can we take that as B? Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

ok lets...wind this back @Iconoclast and @InTheLight , maybe we can get somewhere here. @Iconoclast . From the top - help us both here. In the beginning (insert cool cosmic sound here) - God created the heavens and the earth. ok - full stop - God whilst creating man does He: A) Allow man...

While some may say my concerns are simply emotional. I do have sincere objections to compatabilistic freedom. I can't get to a place where before the foundations of the earth God was like "Jordans mom? Burn. That'll bring me glory". I simply can't get there. If I'm humbled in heaven so be it...

Help me out here. Why can't it mean to simply know before hand in this context? Based on reading the definition again, it seems to me it could mean either (is that fair). So ok why can't it be to foreknowledge of faith and then predestined. I hear you if your response is "it doesnt say on...