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    What Kind of Manuscripts were the basis for the TR?

    I concur that Scrivener to the best of his ability found vintage Greek texts that could have supplied the necessary foundation for the KJV translations. This does not prove that the king's men actually derived their renderings from those same sources. Scrivener only demonstrated that it may have...
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    What Kind of Manuscripts were the basis for the TR?

    Sometimes good things come from Egypt (Matthew 2:15, KJV) -- And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
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    What Kind of Manuscripts were the basis for the TR?

    Thanks, Hank. The article at the link above suggests that there are places in the KJV text that are not supported by any existing Greek MSS but should be considered genuine on the authority of the "earliest known vernaculars, the Old Latin and Old Syriac Peshitta." This seems to be consistent...
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    New version: Modern Evangelical Version (MEV)

    I don't think its available online. John 3:16 (MEV) -- For God loved the world so much that He gave His one and only Son -- so that everyone who believes in Him would not perish, but have eternal life. And John 1:1-3 (set off like poetic verse, different than the MEV's prose) -- In the...
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    You Got To Be Kidding Me!

    I don't watch much TV, which really helps. Bear in mind, most of these translations are only of the New Testament. I can read the NT through about four times each year (that is, once every 90 days). Reading different versions keeps it fresh and interesting for me. Many 'modern' versions are...
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    You Got To Be Kidding Me!

    Brother Glen, I see you were up late last night. Well, now you know. It is dangerous for her to read an SDA devotional book. Its even more dangerous to her spiritually that she attends the SDA church. So, you go to the Adventist church on Saturday with her and then go to a Baptist church without...
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    You Got To Be Kidding Me!

    I also have a library full (over 100 English NT translations just from the 20th & 21st centuries). Today I acquired another (just published in 2013). I have completely read about one-third of them. Some are sectarian works that I do not intend to read, but are for reference like the New World...
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    New version: Modern Evangelical Version (MEV)

    The Modern Evangelical Version is a self-proclaimed "conservative" dynamic equivalent translation. This MEV New Testament (2013 Xlibris) will be easily confused with the recently released Modern English Version (also MEV!). The sole translator, Robert Thomas Helm, is a SDA pastor in my...
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    You Got To Be Kidding Me!

    Is your wife SDA?
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    I find a fair amount of redundancy in the Book of Acts. Here are some examples (KJV) -- 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood. 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    Matthew 13:42 & 50 are exactly the same (there is actually no "a furnace" versus "the furnace" difference in the Greek, KJV) -- 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    I'm still noticing repetition in Scripture. Most of Matthew 5:28-29 is very similar or exactly the same as Matthew 18:8-9. These two accounts seem to reflect that at two different times Jesus spoke this sentiment. Mark 9:45 & 47 seems to be the parallel of Matthew 18. (KJV below) 5:29 And if...
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    Inclusive Language

    I just was doing a quick study of the term "children of the kingdom". The exact term is only found twice in the NT (Matthew 8:12, and 13:38, KJV) -- 12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 38 The field is the...
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    If translations sat down for dinner...

    They got the invitation but responded with apologies. Something about "a pair of oxen", I believe.
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    Benefits of the NKJV

    I agree that there are some good points on both sides. Why does one side have to be completely 'right' and the other completely 'wrong'? Maybe they're both mostly 'right' but a little bit 'wrong'.
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    Newer version: Modern Literal Version (MLV)

    I have not yet read either one. However, one or the other may be my next NT to read, but I prefer to get a paper edition. They are both interesting, in that many folks never thought another TR-based version would ever be produced (the MEB); and there scant few Majority Text versions available...
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    Newer version: Modern Literal Version (MLV)

    Perhaps if we are really going to critique the MLV we ought to use their official website (not the Church of Christ website) -- www.modernliteralversion.org The Appendix II-Wording & Definitions informs the reader that two different Greek words may be translated into the English word "for" but...
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    Newer version: Modern Literal Version (MLV)

    Could you give some specific examples of where (verse) the MLV promotes theological assumptions in it's translation? Thanks
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    Newer version: Modern Literal Version (MLV)

    An online edition of the MLV can be found here -- http://www.churchesofchrist.net/bibles/MLV/mlvindex.htm
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    Newer version: Modern Literal Version (MLV)

    The MLV should not be comfused with the Modern Language Bible (MLB). And the MLV should not be confused with the recent TR-based Modern English Bible (MEB) -- http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=88801&highlight=modern+english+version
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