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not understanding this argument. If A is before B and B is before C, then A is before C. Why is predestination unto glorification a problem for Romans 8:29-30?

Well, maybe you haven't finished the book yet. Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? 1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to...

Good points, also, John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” One of the many reasons I don't believe drawn and called are the same thing.

A whole Biden interview?

Those he predestined he called. Those he called he justified. The calling, regardless of what it is, is limited to the group that's predestined, which is limited to the group that's foreknown.

So you natural depraved man is completely able to believe the Gospel? There is nothing in his nature preventing him? That seems a full denial of original sin.

Thank you Joe. We'll take the unanimous police vote. No problem.

Can you? I just explained that is not what I was referring to? I can see why this site bothers you. You skim over their material like you skim over my posts. You have no reading comprehension. I think now you need to apologize to both of us. :)

Agree. But this doesn't address my question. You said it was fair, initially. Do you have any biblical evidence of this practice of being fair? Or even the practice existing at all in Scripture? My thinking is, if God says this is fair, I'm with God. I don't need to perfectly understand...

Can you get past your derangement over this news site to infer basic ideas? The viral load, in and of itself, is antidotal evidence that the virus is weakening. Man you got it bad. Are you still angry with Breitbart the same way? Is there any outlet you're not hostile toward?

The article says: Italian Study Shows Lower 'Viral Load,' Milder Symptoms In COVID-19 Patients. In the article is says the evidence is still anecdotal. I have no idea what you're nitpicking at. It's obvious you'll never give any credit to TGP. You mentioned the same about Breitbart a while...

So you reject the notion of total inability?

Do you see examples of this anywhere in Scripture? Someone making an offer the other doesn't know about, and then blamed for rejecting it? Would you blame yourself if someone made an offer to you, but not out loud? But really, I'm looking for biblical support.

You're pulling a Bubba. They told the truth. The study suggests the virus might be weakening, but there are other possibilities.

When I read that original TPG article, I got the impression the research was inconclusive and the researchers noncommittal. It appears they can't win with you. I think on this one you need to apologize. Don't pull a Bubba.

That's quite a statistical anomaly. That "innate love of darkness" from the fall sure sounds like total depravity. You sure you're not making a distinction without a difference?

Suit yourself. I don't believe you ever had a coherent argument though. If you did you would have made it.

Irrelevant. Make an argument.

I agree, but I know not all calvinists do. Yes, this is what all calvinists and arminians believe. Again, agree. I believe in total depravity. Totally agree.

Yikes. No idea what you're talking about. You may want to articulate this argument a little better.