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You don't believe the Beast is a person?

Makes me wonder, though, about the SC. Are Thomas and Alito the only Rush Limbaugh again? Man, you're obsessed with him. The guy's battling cancer, for goodness sake. Can't you find someone else to rail on?

Shocked!

Yes, and as i said, he changed his mind. And for good reason. You just want them released for political reasons.

Yeah, I mean they're killing kids at this point.

They also shout black genocide by police. That seems to have died down a little.

He's since said he'd rather not release them (and for good reason, as they can only serve as political fodder). You're being quite dishonest here.

This is false doctrine, George. And you're right, it's a whole lot more. John specifically mentioned hating brothers which encompasses a lot more. The truth is, salvation changes us. It's gradual and takes time, but true Christians change and turn from their sin. We struggle with sin...

Again, cite verses to prove this. John said all have sinned. John said we sin generally, in the present. I agree. John also said the one who continually habitually sins does not know God, and never has. He's neither seen him or known him. Are you directly contradicting this?

What verses do you cite for this drawn twice theory? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. There's an initial drawing, and then an effectual one for those who yield?

Antinomianism is the doctrine that a Spirit indwelled Christian can continually sin with reckless abandon. The fact that you tell them not to does takeaway from the fact that you believe a Christians can do this. The entire book of 1John militates against this. The one who continually sins...

So drawn again?

So, traditional calvinists disagree with Sproul on this? They believe in a man-centered perseverance, and not a divinely enabled perseverance? I have to say, I disagree. I've never heard any calvinists articulate this position. What I suspect is that Sproul does not reject Perseverance, but...

In that case, the label I would give is antinomianism (past profession salvation). It's the idea that a Spirit indwelled Christian can continually sin with reckless abandon. This is a very troubling movement in the modern Church. The doctrine of perseverance is laid out in 1John—the one who...

So, less weapons? Some cities are very dangerous. They need to protect themselves. They're taking away non-lethal options. It's almost as if you guys want them to die.....more often than they already are.

Do you still deny total depravity and deny the order of Romans 8:29-30?

Suit yourself. Yes, I agree, I don't believe it can be explained better.

Fair enough, but you do seem to be flagrantly denying the explicit meaning of a passage to fit your theology. Scripture talks about a stricter judgment for teachers. I don't feel I'm out of bounds. I see you're not against judgment at all. No martyrs here. Much better. I believe...

I'm still not getting the logic of this argument. A is before B (and C for that matter) B is before C, therefore A is before C. Tell me why this argument doesn't follow? And why does this mandate Paul was not saying what he was explicitly saying in a specific order? Curious George (no pun)...

Several of those verses said just that. There is none righteous, none who search for truth. That takes some hubris to deny. Just as it take hubris to deny the explicit order in 29-30. I'd very very careful walking this line.