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I thought we were talking about teaching our children the word of God. Would be the same as preaching the word. Never said it was. Salvation is ALL of God. Preaching is God's plan to bring people to His Salvation.

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." (Is 1:18) Thus you would agree God hates the elect until they are justified.

That's like saying no God, man preaching the Gospel does not = Salvation ALL of God.

Again, that covers all of us. So did God hate us before He loved us? And now loves us in spite of the fact we are still doing iniquity?

That would be all of us. I would say God hates the sin, not the sinner. God is Love.

Thanks for the clarification. And I agree with Paul.

But they know these prayers are meaningless right? According to their beliefs.

With that answer it sounds like you would answer their questions as a politician. Never give them a direct answer. Daddy, does God love me? Well son, God is Love and His love is found solely in Christ. (Blank stare)

Not what I asked. You said a person cannot understand God's Word without being saved. Can they understand do not Murder, do not steal?

Amen!

You mean dies in Adam's sins, aborted babies don't have any of their own sins yet. Would you teach them the tenants of Calvinism? All of them? Including God does not Love everyone?

You always result to this. We see the attributes of God differently and we read the same Scripture with the same Holy Spirit within. Maybe it is you who is showing a hatred for the biblical God and maybe you are in no position to question or put constraints upon God....like His Love.

Do you care if God leaves your child for hell? Does it bother you?

So you believe a child or any person cannot understand God's Word when for example God says Thou shall not steal? Or thou shall not Murder or hate?

Never said anyone saves themselves. you are conflating the subjects. Can a person regenerate themselves? Of course not. Salvation is ALL of God and is available to ALL who will call upon the name of the Lord. Amen! And so do I. But you are straying from the issue. Do you trust God to be Just...

I will take that as a compliment, for I would not want the cold heart of not caring whether or not God has chosen to let my child perish in hell just because he was not chosen before he ever committed a sin, before he was ever even born.

It would be sad, but at least the promises of God to give them every chance to freely choose would make it justified even if they end up in hell. I would also truly be trusting in God that He has not hated my child, but is more hurt than me that my child would not receive the truth. I also have...

Does this make sense to you? You teach them God's Word, but if they are not saved it's their fault for rejecting what you taught them about God. But if they are saved, it had nothing to do with you teaching them about God from God's Word. Have you reasoned this out? Or have you locked yourself...

Again, what are you trusting the Lord will do? Are you trusting God will give your child what they deserve, hell? Or are you trusting God will save your child? If you are merely trusting God will do what is Just and Right, then you would be trusting that God will let your child for hell. If your...

This is a red herring. Salvation is ALL of God. I always here the accusation that non-Cals misrepresent Cal's beliefs. Cals do the same thing. God draws, God saves, God allowing a decision does not take anything away from salvation being ALL of God. What are you trusting God for? Are you...