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So I asked you the difference between the Old way of God circumcising the heart and the New way of God circumcising the heart?" You pointed to the priest of the OT verses Jesus Christ our High Priest. Why is one better than the other since you believe either one saved?

Ok. So where are you coming up with the Preist thing when I asked you about circumcision of the heart... "Can you explain the difference between the Old way of getting circumcision of the heart and the New way of getting circumcision of the heart?" And you said.... "Before you had a high...

You kinda losing me here. Maybe it would help if you gave your definition of circumcision of the heart as you see it from scripture both OT and NT.

Our debate is not about the benefit, but whether or not circumcision of the heart is foretold to be New. Can you explain the difference between the Old way of getting circumcision of the heart and the New way of getting circumcision of the heart?

Never said it did. It is an invalidation of what you say Deuteronomy says. The days come. Means hasn't happened yet. I will make a new covenant. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers. It is New, NOT according to the Old covenant. After those days. What days? Do you...

This is certainly a different approach. Problem for you is it states circumcision of the heart will be NEW and FUTURE and NOT the same...... "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the...

Interesting, but... . ......can you explain why Scripture (OT And NT) calls circumcision of the heart a New Covenant? According to your position, circumcision of the heart is nothing New.

I don't think you can draw that conclusion seeing how Paul was writing to the Roman converts some twenty years after the cross of Christ. But if you do stick with this, can you explain why Scripture (OT And NT) calls circumcision of the heart a New Covenant? According to your position...

I think it is also, but of course in a different finding than you. When does this take place? It appears to be a prophecy. The commentaries I read connect it with Paul declaring that all of Israel will be saved at the second coming of Christ when those out of the Tribulation believe.

So I give Scripture over and over again showing Jesus said no man has entered into heaven at the time Jesus spoke this to Nicodemus (John 3) and Scripture that shows the Living Water/Spirit/Comforter was not yet given because Jesus Christ was not yet glorified (John 7) and no one has dealt with...

It's all about implementations on God's timeline. All are saved by grace through faith. The indwelling Spirit did not begin until Jesus Christ was glorified. John 7. Neither will you find the concept of "saved" in the OT as it relates to the Spirit indwellement. Have you noticed no one has...

We are discussing how one must be born again in order to enter into heaven and when this began. You wouldn't have anything to add since you believe one doesn't even need to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved. Are you saying you don't like Jews?

I don't believe I would ask this since I know there was no such thing as born-again before Jesus was crucified, buried, raised again to life and glorified. See John 7, it's very clear. Yes, let's refer to Prov 30... "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended?" Your answer would be...

As a bible student, you have to explain and harmonize these two seemingly contradicting acts. If these two were with God in Heaven before Jesus led captivity captive, then you have to explain why Jesus said no man has entered into heaven before He Himself descended from heaven. All you do is...

Let us ask Jesus, ""no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Ok, tell me why Nicodemus, a master of Israel, should have known this? Where was it found in the Scriptures, that he should have known?

Here we go! Any Christian who argues against Calvinism is a heretic! I'm a four point heretic myself, I only sign on to OSAS. I would argue this is false in part, but it does not make you a heretic, I'm sure you are a well meaning Christian who loves God and loves your neighbor. Abraham was...

It's about the only place you are going to get the facts. Or the pertinent news for that matter.

Shep is proof Fox is fair and balanced. He represents the left perfectly when he twist quotes and lies about what conservatives have said on a daily basis.

SHEPARD SMITH (HOST): One of the men who gave a prayer before the ceremony in Jerusalem today says he believes all Jews are going to hell. Robert Jeffress is the pastor at First Baptist Church in Dallas. Jeffress' views on other religious groups, and Judaism, as well as the LGBT community are...

Of course. But the subject was regeneration of the spirit, not the body. I think you have always been a good honest poster here, but you know you are off topic from my points. That's ok, because I already know there is no defense for OT rebirth doctrine found in the scriptures. Blessings!