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  1. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Re-posting with corrected numbers on the times Lord, Christ and Son of God are emphasized in Scripture (I transferred the wrong sets) Did you purposefully leave out all the titles? Scripture is specific and perfect (of course bc it is of God). The "accepting" is Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Christ...
  2. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    This really makes no sense. You are saying all people who do evil don't know they are doing evil. Paul's ignorance was he thought he was doing a good thing for God by trying to snuff out Christians, which was Paul's ignorance. Jesus had to personally stop Paul through a face to face, but blessed...
  3. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Did you purposefully leave out all the titles? Scripture is specific and perfect (of course bc it is of God). The "accepting" is Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Christ, Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus of Nazareth the "good man" is not what Scripture states one must accept. One must accept the truth, the...
  4. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    What do you think Paul meant by this ignorance? Paul knew the Gospel message. Paul knew Christians followed Jesus as the Son of God, which is why he hunted them down and killed them, for worshiping Jesus as God. So what was Paul ignorant of?
  5. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    How have I misrepresented you? Do you believe Jews and Muslims who reject the Lord Jesus Christ are still going to be saved as long as they love others and do good works?
  6. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Wonderful! Now you can stop saying the Muslim and the Jew which rejects the Lord Jesus Christ is saved by their good works. You could have just said so to begin with.
  7. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Oh, that is what we call Calvinism. So you are a Catholic Calvinist??
  8. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    I made no such claim on this thread. We could begin a thread on it if you like. Our discussion here has been concerning salvation by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, which you claim is not necessary. One only need good works.
  9. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    I ask because I am trying to understand if this teaching that one can reject the Lord Jesus Christ and still be saved by their good works is RCC wide or just a few rogue Catholics here on this board.
  10. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Well this is easy to clear up... Can a person reject the Lord Jesus Christ, reject He is the Son of God, and still be saved by their good works? Yes or No and then you can post any text to support your answer. (Yes or No clarifies your position without question, posting scripture can be abused...
  11. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    I think you have me mixed up with someone else. Our discussion has been about Jesus preaching He is the Son of God and one believing it makes no difference, people can believe He is or not, their good works will save them. I had a long discussion with a Catholic on the topic of Sola Scriptura...
  12. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Ok, so we have Matt and Matt who agrees with Utilyan's post which declare a person can reject the Lord Jesus Christ and still be saved by their good works. Are there any other's here who also believe this?
  13. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Is that what Jesus was trying to convince them of, that he was a good man? No, that is what the unbelievers want to make Jesus out to be, just a good man. But you failed to include what Jesus was actually trying to convince them of. All you had to do was read just one verse prior and you would...
  14. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    You missed the teaching. It all means nothing IF you do not have Love. If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ let him be accursed. (bigot Paul)
  15. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    I think maybe it is you who does not know what the word means. Here it is..."a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." Now you must answer, Did Jesus Christ and His Apostles give us "opinions" concerning God and Salvation or did they give us "facts" about God and...
  16. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    The Vicar of Christ "flat out evil". Nice. I guess you have Popes in hell then correct? Or does everybody eventually get to go to heaven? As long as they do a few good deeds somewhere at sometime.
  17. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    You seriously think the Muslims and Jews do not understand what Christians believe about Jesus Christ? Well then, that parable is speaking of a lost man who displayed his void of faith. He proved he did not believe by not forgiving others even though he knew God's kingdom is about forgiveness...
  18. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Why? You do know the middle east is where Christianity was born, right? There are millions of Christians in the middle east. Have you not heard how tens of thousands have been born Muslim and Jew and have come to reject those religions and began following Jesus Christ and His definition of love...
  19. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    You seriously do not understand Jesus is speaking of people? If you do not know who His enemies are then how do you know you are not one of them?
  20. steaver

    The Bible says a lot of things

    Now why would a Christian desire to spin or twist God's very Word? Do you really believe John 3:18 is speaking about a person who does not believe God saves? Now of course it says nothing of the sort, it's really not even a twist but a flat out rewrite. I'll post it again, I pray the Father...
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