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Now you are changing up the subject again. We are not discussing sanctification after rebirth. We are discussing circumcision of the heart whether or not it is the same as the rebirth. So after three tries I must assume you cannot defend your position. I will not try a fourth time. Either you...

True, so when does Jesus tell the regenerated to regenerate themselves?

With all due respect, that sounds really silly. So their heart is already circumcised by God, but God commands them to circumcise their heart??

That's nice, but it does not support your idea that circumcision of the heart equals born again. You have dodged it twice now....here it is again.... I believe you would have an impossible time connecting the two. What can be connected to circumcision of the heart is an attitude of the heart to...

You did not say it, God did. I posted His Scripture.

Sure would. But now back to what I said in response to you trying to connect circumcised heart with born of God.....maybe you could explain.... I believe you would have an impossible time connecting the two. What can be connected is an attitude of the heart to follow God's ways.... "And now...

God told them which ones had a circumcised heart? Where does it say that?

I believe you would have an impossible time connecting the two. What can be connected is an attitude of the heart to follow God's ways.... "And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD...

So how did they know a person had been circumcised in heart before they let them enter in?

How would one ever make the leap to Abraham was born of the Spirit of God by reading this passage of scripture? Because Abraham seen Messiah afar off through the miraculous birth of his son Isaac? This really shows how the rest of this debate will be going.

Two different born agains?? I think you see the problem with asserting OT saints were born again brother. Especially when John said the Spirit was not yet given because Jesus Christ was not yet glorified. You know in your heart he wasn't talking about Pentecost, he was talking about the Living...

It's all about Jesus Christ's Atonement. The Cross and the Resurrection. So many Christians act like that was just a technicality that had to take place, really didn't need it to be saved and get into heaven.

Well brother I would like to have chimed in with more support but you thoroughly defended the Kingdom of God with tons of irrefutable Scripture that you left me nothing to add. Lol. It is shocking to me that many Christians who have studied Scripture for years cannot see the simplicity of this...

Jesus said, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Heaven and Paradise did not merge until Christ took captivity captive. "Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men...

And what happens to them if they do not repent of this wrong doing as God has commanded them to? Do they go to hell?

Nice rabbit trail. Now can you answer my question? Why did Paul tell the people who were worshiping ignorantly with their devotions, that God, whom Paul declares salvation is through Jesus Christ, commands them to repent? "For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with...

Why did Paul tell the people worshiping ignorantly with their devotions, that God, whom Paul declares salvation is through Jesus Christ, commands them to repent? "For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye...

The spirits of antichrist will come up with any scenario they can to draw people away from the truth of Christ. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." (1Jo 2:22) "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus...

So your religion is as you say. This teaching is antichrist according to John (Scripture) so you prove here that the Catechism is against the Scripture and that it is merely sinful man making things up as they go along. The Catechism you posted is in direct opposition to John.... Who is a liar...

The Gospel message is not for the angels, your point has no bearing on this issue, ALL the angels not only believe Jesus is God, they KNOW it. Also, every person who ever went to hell also NOW knows Jesus is the Christ, and is God and Savior. (Luke 16) Never said He did, straw man tactic when...