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Almost. The elect are predestined to salvation before any man's good or evil while the non-elect's destinies are not commented on at the time. The same means of salvation is provided to the non-elect too - they cannot repent with a hardened heart, and so God shows conditional mercy upon the...

Yes, I've read this too. Accordingly I hold to the consistent theological framework of unconditional election unto salvation for the elect and the simultaneous qualified arminian conditional offer of salvation to the non-elect (Option 3). Sproul didn't explore the specifics of this in his...

I do not myself believe that all humans start out in the Lamb's Book of Life - but I don't quite follow this logic. "If <all humans start out in the Lamb's book of life>, they would all be born sinless" ? Why must this be so? You must believe that some humans(elect) do start out in this book of...

Is this the only reason you are inclined to believe all begin with their names written in the book of life? Don't you find it dangerous to build an entire theological interpretation from simply something Scriptures have been quite conspicuously vague about? Just to get this clear - your primary...

We're just going to get lost in semantics if we go down this route. There'd probably be several back and forth posts on just what each term is supposed to mean - and I'm willing to engage but do you really think this is what the contradictions that I pointed out in my last post truly hinges on...

I too do not believe in incremental softening of hearts - a new heart is completely an overhaul of the hardened heart. I think the difference is in you believing a regenerated heart can no longer again be hardened whereas I believe that's entirely possible. Given that Adam was created with a...

....It's the same process in offering conditional salvation to the non-elect. God is not wasting time - He's demonstrating the contrasting features of what the self does vs what God Himself does. He knows all things - He's making us know these things too as in Rom 3:4. In fact this is the...

I'd like to address each of your many points in separate posts... I'm simply drawing attention to this thought process particularly common in calvinism - the calvinist makes a value judgement on what is a waste of time and what isn't and then claims to uphold God's glory in declaring God would...

Agreed - only the elect are birthed in the spirit. I think you rightly maintain a strict correlation only between being elect and being birthed in the spirit, but then incorrectly infer that the non-elect are consequently not at all worked upon by God to overcome their hardened hearts. The...

Rom 16:13 - Rufus is a jew with a roman name in Rome? Col 3:12 - only jews in Colossae? 1Tim 5:21 - angels are jewish? Rom 8:31-39 - does the elect "us" refer to only jews in Rome? What truth is gained in such profiling?

Can't the non-elect be enlightened with the truth of the knowledge of Jesus Christ and be led to repentance if their hardened soil is replaced with a new heart by God's grace? Regeneration does lead to repentance, right? But yes, the elect are rebirthed in the spirit too in addition to having...

I uphold Single Predestination - so yes, I too believe only the elect actually obtain salvation. I too believe that on Judgement Day, all the non-elect will end up being condemned. It's just the process and the 'when' that we may disagree on. Calvinists believe God chose to condemn the...

Say I laid out a feast of only desserts and called outside for any and everybody to come in and eat, but then still shared my true observation that only those with a sweet tooth will enter my feast - wouldn't you agree that this is quite different from me going out and inviting only those with a...

I am in complete agreement with this. Just clarifying - when you earlier said "That thinking disallows God's provisions to draw everyone and everyone is allowed to resist.", were you stating your belief or making a counter-argument using a contradiction? Because if "everyone is allowed to...

I'm mostly sure you do believe in the doctrine of Original sin. Why do you then say that we were created by God in a fallen and blinded condition - God created everything good and man fell, being overcome by sin in the flesh. And each of us would've fallen the exact same way in Eden, given the...

Interesting side note. I am inclined to read that as specifically to work out God's redemption in mankind through the death of the flesh and life in the spirit, which wouldn't be possible if they'd eaten of the tree of life resulting in the flesh never to die. But yes, the flesh must not glory...

Let's be precise in our premises. The elect are chosen of God for God's promise of salvation. It's important not to conflate the phrase "promise of salvation" into simply "salvation". The non-elect are not given this promise of God - but that doesn't necessarily mean God cannot or does not...

If you believe someone is blinded by error, isn't it more helpful to help them work out of it step-by-step in loving consideration instead of a lol at it? I guess each of us are as convinced of the truth of our own beliefs as anyone else here. Anyway, I find it helpful to simply discuss...

Agreed. I completely believe in Limited Atonement. I also believe in the genuine universal offer of salvation to all, including the non-elect. Yes. Your statements would be completely true at the end of time on Judgement Day. But there is an entire process that occurs prior to that. Christ is...

True. I agree to believe otherwise is to not be faithful to Scriptures. I know none will be convinced unless God works in them - I never accepted any truth of God myself apart from Him opening hearts and minds. And I'm sure I hold many more blind-spots. I just find myself fully persuaded about...