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Where does my illustration say that? Some guy walking down the street may have no desire to join the army, but once confronted by the recruiter (drawn/convinced) he chooses to join. He didn't want to join because he didn't know about it, but once given the information he decided to join. The...

Yet, that illustration is perfectly parallel to the parable of the wedding banquet that Winman mentioned earlier. He sends his servants to do his 'bidding' and to 'invite' or to make an 'appeal' to all people. That supports our contention that the 'drawing' is more liken to an 'appeal' than to...

I agree. The best illustration of this I've heard is like when a cop hides his presence so that you will keep speeding. The cop is not making you speed. He is merely hiding the truth (that he is watching) so that you will keep doing what you already want to do. That is a perfect example of...

They are parallel in that both of them constitute a willingness on the part of the person to join/come/unite with the other. The point is not to be a perfect parallel, but to illustrate how the simplest and most common sense understanding of the text can include the presumption that the 'him'...

Paul draws the clear distinction when he writes: "26 " 'Go to this people and say, "You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." 27 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their...

Judicial Hardening = God's active blinding people from seeing, hearing or understanding the truth lest they believe it... Total Inability (Calvinism) = People are born totally unable to see, hear, or understand the truth and thus believe it... Which is it? Either men are born unable to see...

At the Army headquarters a General makes this statement: "No one can join the Army unless a Army recruiter has recruited him, and the Army will train him to fight to his greatest potential." Most understand that the recruiters certainly attempted to recruit many who refused to come, but that...

Yet you deem OUR VIEW of that immediate context as 'off topic' proving that you don't want a debate on the subject...which is fine. Just say so...or write a book instead of posting in a debate forum... :smilewinkgrin:

To bad I can't address your hermeneutical error as apparently that would be off topic. 1. All given to come to Christ, while here in flesh, is in reference to the twelve (later specified in that very text). 2. Israel is being hardened with exception of this this 'remnant' of Israel...

This is the problem. You want to debate John 6 without dealing with what WE BELIEVE about John 6, which really means you don't want a debate... I see no reason to start a new thread when everything I have presented is intricately related to John 6 and the debate regarding the nature of man and...

In my experience the strongest points of one's arguments are not reflected in what his 'opponent' addresses but in what he ignores.... Here are some points from my last post I'd like you to address, if you will: The FACT (non opinion) that Israel is being actively/judicially hardened by...

But here is the difference that separates us: You have Christ withholding truth for the purpose of condemnation, I have Christ withholding truth temporarily for the purpose of redemption and mercy. "For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." Rm...

Ok, where to start?... Please allow me to focus on a few key points so as to keep this from turning into a novel. If I skip something you really want me to reply to just let me know and I'll be happy to do so, okay? It doesn't matter if that is or isn't the TOPIC being discussed. It matters...

1) Hermeneutics 101 teaches us to use scripture to interpret scripture. 2) Chapter 12 of the same book would be considered the same context considering that its the same audience, topic and speaker. 3) One might wonder why you are not willing to address the CLEARLY stated REASON that his...

But have you considered who the "HIM's" are that Jesus could be addressing? Notice that the audience are Jews, most of which are being hardened from the truth, while only a select few (12 apostles, as later specified) are being drawn. The REASON they (his audience) was not ABLE ("enabled") to...

Good addition BaptistJG!

The bible teaches that God loves mankind because He chooses to love (Deuteronomy 7:6-7). He does this because He is loving (God is love, 1 John 4:8), not because He is under some obligation to love everyone equally. He is not obligated to love anyone or to save anyone. He graciously chooses...

But I've known gluttons and gossips get saved and never give up their lifestyle? Double standard? Just asking...

God bless this system...it got it right this time!!!

Not guilty