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A better term would be fallen nature. Romans 7 and other passages teach that due to the Fall, we have a law of sin in our flesh that brings us into captivity until we are freed by the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus Man indeed is fallen, but if Christ sets you free you are free indeed

Such was your heart too. How did your heart change towards God? By a work of Grace that occurred before you believed. See, no one's denying the Fall. On what basis does God damn sinners? Please provide scriptural citations for your answer. This question is a challenge to all Calvinists.

But Jesus came to seek and to save the lost.

You alluded to it in post 114. Jesus seeks and "finds" the sheep. This is a clear allusion to Luke 15, parable of the lost sheep, is it not. Where is it spoken of where goats get saved? Nowhere. Because Goats do not listen to His voice or follow Him. Yet it DOES NOT SAY that they are goats...

If you think I am ignoring the Fall, you have not understood my posts. The Fall only deals with human inability. It does not handcuff God And don't you know that the whole " you're ignoring the Fall" is a strawman? I believe in moral inability and depravity. I also believe God's grace is...

I gave several because goats are included in "all men", and "any" etc. Do you want me to deal with Hebrews 2 next? I will try to get to it tommorow. Plus, I did a little thing on Romans 9 in another thread. It is not all the way fleshed out because I was waiting for objections (which I am...

You conflated the meaning of "lost sheep of Israel" with the sheep of the judgement of the nations, to begin with. You also ignored the setting and purpose of the lost sheep parable. That's ok. We all do it from time to time when we "prooftext". That's why prooftexting is not a good way to...

Just food for thought. Consider each passage for its own meaning, especially when it is in a different setting and context before you examine it in light of other passages

Where does Ephesians 2 say we were a sheep when we were not listening to His voice and following Him? I was not a lost sheep of the house of Israel and I was not a John 10 sheep, nor was I a Matthew 25 sheep when I was dead in trespasses and sins I do admit to being a Luke 15 sheep. So that...

There you go mixing passages with no regard to context. No one ever said the sheep in Matthew 25 were only Jews. Completely different context than the passages about the lost sheep OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. Matthew 25 is talking about THE NATIONS. The lost sheep of the house of Israel is talking...

Dispensational error- so you think when the prophets talk about useless shepherds and lost sheep, it's talking about Gentiles? Man centered- nothing I said was man centered. I think a theology that teaches that God does not have to coerce people to love Him, but rather They love Him because...

Tell me what I posted that you claim is unbiblical? Also, please check post 142

Ok, let's talk sheep here, iconoclast. Lost sheep of the house of Israel- they are called sheep because they are a people of a nation IN COVENANT with God. The phrase lost sheep here DOES NOT APPLY to people who were strangers and aliens from the Commonwealth of God, or pre new covenant...

So you jump back and forth between Hebrews 2:9 and John 10 then jump over to Luke 15 and mash them all together, completely ignoring contexts, purpose of the various passages, etc. just take a couple words from here and stick them over there and then add this little piece from here and we got...

We don't have an issue with the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible is neither willing that any should perish nor takes pleasure in the death of the wicked. The God of the Bible does not assign people to hell before they are born. The God of the Bible leads men to repent, even those that...

People are judged according to the LIGHT that they have received. Those who have not heard are without excuse, because that which may be known of God concerning His eternal power and Godhead has been revealed to them.

He does not save goats, but He did die for them. Hebrews 2:9, He died for every man. ...and He is leading them to repentance (Romans 2:4) ...and He says things so they might be saved. (John 5:34) Romans 10:21- He stretches out His Hands to them. Hebrews 2:1-3- How can you neglect something...

"we all had our lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." This is describing someone who listens to Jesus' voice and follows Him (ie a sheep)? quote- What are the characteristics of a goat? answer- lusts...

The lost sheep is talking about the house of Israel. I do not ignore the Fall in any thread. I have always agreed with "moral inability", depravity, and the saved by Grace through faith alone. The sheep fell along with the goats, but God's grace is greater than the Fall. Where sin abounds...

I already knew you or someone else were going to go to John 10. John 10 is one of my favorite chapter. You are conflating John 10 with the parable of the lost sheep. Two very different passages with two very different PURPOSES and APPLICATIONS. The lost sheep has the same purpose, meaning, and...