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Thats false Thats works, and merit, God doesnt elect based upon them things Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth) Believing is doing good, and is...

Thats your opinion which means nothing to me, no disrespect It was according to Rom 9

Thats because Christ was made a surety for their sins in the everlasting or new covenant Heb 7:22 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. When Jesus came in the flesh it was to pay a obligation, the sin debt Gods people owed Heb 2:17 7 Wherefore in all things it behoved...

Coming to Christ necessitates Gods supernatural power [His Drawing] and not mans freewill so called Jn 6:44 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. The Supernatural Power is the Grace of God through the Power of the Holy...

I agree A Just anger just , His Holiness demands it, though He wasn't personally angry at the elect, but sin must be punished, but this point I dont consider a vital Gospel Doctrine I can agree, judicially But Gods anger can be against one of His favorites like with Moses once recorded Ex...

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His forelove

Furthermore, even in Acts 13:48 the word ordained is in the passive voice, its just spelled with the same middle letters, but i bet you cant show me 1 or 2 translations were ordained is in the middle voice in Acts 13:48 as to say they ordained themselves to eternal life. Also what was your...

No you bought up your examples first to prove your point. of mutual agreement, did you not ? Here is one Matt 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. But little did you know that the words " went away" were in the passive voice...

There has never in scripture stating that Christ died for all humanity. Thats a false spin put on words like all and world

What does passive voice mean ? You like to run to the greek.

Says nothing about Christ dying for all humanity, that's a false spin on it.

So Jesus teaches what is called total depravity or inability as the T in Tulip !

Its nothing arbitrary about it, God purposed to do what He did in all wisdom and prudence, to predestine some to glory with His Son and predestine some, the rest to wrath and destruction with the devil and his angels

You don't get it

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Im not spending time going through that for you. You wont believe a word I say, I dont see why you even ask me to explain scripture to you, you already said I dont know what Im talking about.

@Dave G The penalty of sin for the elect was always going to be Christs responsibility, if we believe He was setup as their Surety before the world began, in what some call the everlasting covenant.

@Dave G Yep it is, Im sorry its difficult for you to grasp Okay I can agree with this. My point is His death saved them from wrath, His wrath is against sinners as in vessels of wrath Rom 9 but The elect were never under His wrath, and Christ propitiated Gods due wrath for their sins, I said...