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    Semi Pelagianism

    But the context of Romans 10 is actually SOTERIOLOGICAL. This is evident by the texts that say "how shall they believe on whom they have not heard, and how shall they hear without a preacher, etc" Fully agree on your paragraph on election. I pretty much feel the same way.
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    Semi Pelagianism

    My position is that the will is not free until GOD FREES IT. I believe in moral inability. But Irresistable grace does not necessarily follow from moral inability. That is the great non-sequitur of Calvinism ...and God does send grace towards all. But that Grace can be resisted. God's grace...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Thank you. T. Cassiday takes a NEGATIVE VERB and claims it to be an action and then calls it synergism.It's like saying that if I do not resist someone carrying me out of a fire, that I helped that person pull me out of the fire. T. Cassiday even said it was equivelant to saying "God needs my...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Exactly my point T.Cassidy makes "not resisting" a work or action and then calls it synergism. So according to his definition of action "not seeking to justify myself by the Law" is also an action.
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Insults is all he has left
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    I asked you if not resisting was an active or passive act and you said active Post 54
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    Semi Pelagianism

    Did you say earlier that believing is a work? Yes or no? AND did you or did you not say that one must believe in order to make his salvation permament in post 61? And did you or did you not say that "not resisting" is an active verb? And by the same logic, isnt "not working" (Romans 4:5) an...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Getting back on topic, God did build the bridge all the way across the divide, because He did that in the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ. WE believe that, so the claim of "a bridge going only halfway or partway across (see OP) is inaccurate. SO someone tell me one...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    When you asked "who said God needs help to save somebody", Iconiclast put a big X of disagreement on your post. I never heard someone disagree with a question before. He also did the same to me when I protested being called a synergist. It's just like when the Socinian called me a gnostic...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    you mean the post where an UNCONDITIONAL ELECTIONIST made TWO LINKS of the golden chain of redemption CONDITIONAL I thought Regeneration, predestined to be conformed to the image of the Son, and glorification were all UNCONDITIONALLY DETERMINED for the ELECT. But in the post you are referring...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    T. Cassiday, "not resisting" is an active verb. (see post 53 and 54) By that reasoning "worketh not" in Romans 4"5 would also be an active verb. So if not resisting is a synergistic work SO IS "NOT WORKING" The condition of not working is not a synergistic act of man, therefore the condition of...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Well, what I do know is that ALL OF THOSE (positional, progressive, and final salvation) are part of the GOLDEN CHAIN of redemption, and I DON"T BELIEVE IN SEPERATING THEM FROM ONE ANOTHER. They are linked together, not seperate links all lying off somewhere by themselves, right? Positional...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    SO Paul was wrong when he answered the phillipian jailer's question "what must I do to be saved" by saying "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ". SO doing something equals synergism and believing is doing something, so by your definitions, Paul was preaching synergism. Of course, I don't believe...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    OK, that is viable. But what of Romans 10:9-10? And why didnt Paul correct the Philippian jailer when he asked "what must I do to be saved"? Someone else told me that was referring to "making salvation progressive and permanent", but then that is making ultimate glorification and permanency of...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Here it is again...last paragraph in the quote What must he do to be saved progressively and permanently? Simple. He had to believe He was Who He claimed to be, and believe in what He did. That is the cognitive aspect I was talking about in my other post. So we do absolutely nothing to be...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    OH, I agree. I just am wondering about what T. Cassidy means by what one must do for His salvation to be PERMANENT. (it's right there in post 61) Do Calvinists believe that regeneration is IMPERMANENT until we add something to it to make it permanent? Because he did say that something must be...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID what A MAN MUST DO FOR HIS SALVATION TO BE PERMANENT? (post 61) You just put a condition on the PERMANENCE OF SALVATION Please explain yourself
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    You said in post 61 "What must he do to be saved progressively and permanently..." So a man does nothing at all in regeneration, but has to do something afterwards or else his salvation will not be permanent?
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    SO according to post 61, he's not PERMANENTLY saved unless he meets conditions? Because you said that PERMANANT SALVATION IS CONDITIONAL ON HIS BELIEVING. So what is impermanent salvation?
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Botom line...you just saide a man has to doo somethin to be progressively and permanntlaly saved
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