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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    That's Ok, you just said that a man has to do something to be progressively and permanently saved.
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    So then you believe that a man must do something to be saved then.
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Ma I never said anything other than God grants faith to believe. But according to your definition of synergism, an act that I did was a secondary cause to my believing. Therefore, AN ACTION was a secondary cause. Therefore, that would fall under your definiton of synergism (God's grace plus...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    So now NOT DOING AN ACT is an active verb. So again, if I was saved because I picked up a bible and God granted me faith to believe, I did something. Does that make me a synergist? When the Philippian jailer asked what he needed to do to be saved, why didnt Paul rebuke him for his synergistic...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Is "not resisting" and active or passive verb? Deaf people can read the Gospel or see it in sign language. Oh, something they do again. So if I read the Bible and am saved by faith, I read the Bible and reading is an active verb. So now I am a synergist because I was saved because I read the...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    SO God's grace plus hearing the Gospel is synergism. Isn't hearing the gospel something you do?
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Iconoclast disagrees with a question?
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    That doesnt say God needs help or that we add any energeia to our own salvation. So I'm waiting now too.
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Wrong. I did not say that my "not resisting" produces a greater effect than God's action would produce alone. It's the same effect, because regeneration is a monergistic act of God (I add nothing efficacious or meritorious whatsoever) The act of regeneration and salvation is wholly of God, so I...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    GOOD QUESTION! I am no more synergist than I am semipelagianism. I reject both. I guess that makes me a Calvinist If all Arminians are synergist, as T Cassiday seems to think These categories people make up (like synergists) are all messed up. Maybe we should stop putting categories on people...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Simple question...what Arminian has ever said that we co-operate with God in order to produce a greater effect than what God's working alone can produce? I know of none.
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    Semi Pelagianism

    SO when Paul says whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved, he is being a synergist? Is that what you're saying? Or does monergism only apply to some aspects of salvation and not others? For what then of the future aspect of salvation in the phrase "whoever calls on the name of...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    I would agree that is not a well thought through argument. That kind of argument limits the power of God in a sense, as if to say God is not powerful enough to be Sovereign unless His will is unresisted. Resistance of God's will does not remove God's power or Soveriegnty, it just results in a...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    I do not subscribe to Unconditional Election ( I think election is one of those things that belong to the Lord), but this is an excellent post. I am hesitant to fully embrace either unconditional or fully embrace conditional election, because I beleive that election happened outside of time in...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    That is speaking of the sheep of the house of Israel, to whom Christ came first. And God has given a remnant of Israel the New Birth, He is drawing them today, and He will also draw them with a far greater drawing. But sometimes God draws through means that you are not considering.
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    Semi Pelagianism

    a. I do not like the co-enabling part. All of the ability in salvation comes from God. b. The sinner cannot accept apart from preceding grace, so the answer to the second part is no. This is because it leaves too much in the sinners hand. It is up to the sinner to accept or reject BASED UPON...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    You're hung up on thinking faith and repentance are works. They are not works, they are responses wrought by a monergistic drawing. Who said anything about reaching out and taking the gift? The Scripture says “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILLASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ...
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    Semi Pelagianism

    The lost will not be cleansed of sin in the resurrection. They will be made undying, but their state will be of abject lostness and seperation of God.
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    Not if God ORDAINED it to be such. You seem to think that God is too impotent and weak to be Sovereign if anyone can resist His Will. Resisting a Soveriegn DOES NOT REMOVE HIS ABSOLUTE SOVEREIGNTY. It just means the resister will fall under His absolute wrath/judgement. So simple a child...
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    Misunderstanding Unlimited Atonement.

    a, How can you improve on Omnipotence/Infinite power. You can't b. God's grace is more than sufficient, whether I resist or not. c. Refraining from resisting is not interacting or cooperating with the grace of God in order to create a combined effect greater than the sum of mine and God's...
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