Search results

It does not leave man unable to hear and respond to the Gospel and nothing in the Bible says that. It leaves man in a rebellious state that makes Him unwilling to be obedient. That doesn't mean he is unable. That "inability" is something that Calvinists pencil into the Bible. It is simply...

I Cor. 2:14 is referring to the deeper truths of Scripture. The unsaved person cannot receive those truths that are only revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. It is not saying that the unsaved person cannot read and understand the Gospel and that He cannot be convicted by Holy Spirit through...

Nothing I said indicates such a thing. I do not deny the effects of the fall at all. I believe that Adam's sin brought all of creation into a state of sin, death and decay.

What verses are you referring to?

I am not sure what you are getting at. What messages from God are you referring to?

I refuse to accept false doctrine. And that verse does not at all cover an inability to hear the Gospel in an unregenerate state. So far, no one who has used that verse has been able to exegete it to prove what I have is wrong. It has taken you this long in the discussion to finally getting...

True, it one of the arguments I use, but it is not the only one. Yes, but they have many people who believe in visions/dreams of this nature and almost always dreams and visions are going to reinforce someone's own theology. I didn't intend to say that anyone was arguing that fact. Just...

It's not a slippery slope argument at all. I am stating as fact that a lot of people in the Charismatic/Word of Faith movement claim visions and dreams and use them as teaching tools. They claim to have visions of Heaven and direct face-to-face conservations with Jesus and stuff like that...

No, it says nothing about an inability to hear God or the Gospel call. That is not even on the radar in that chapter. Paul's point in that verse occurs in context about the deeper spiritual truths, about how those truths are foolish to the natural man. It says he cannot receive them. It...

Lot's of false teaching gets started when someone claims to have had a vision or dream or something. Visions and dreams are completely unnecessary when we have the completed canon of Scripture and the Person of the Holy Spirit whose task it is to lead us by illuminating the Word of God to our...

That's why we have the Holy Spirit living within us and why we have His Word. Even if we allow for dreams and visions to be about guidance and direction, as well, again, that's why we have indwelling abiding presence of the Holy Spirit. I am skeptical about those alleged visions.

But that is not due to an inability to hear or obey the Gospel. It comes from sinful rebellious condition. Why would God waste His time, in the OT, calling out to unregenerate Israel to return to Him if they were unable to hear Him and respond? Why send prophets to a people who did not have...

That does not speak to the issue of inability. Nothing in the entire Romans 3:9-20 passage says anything about an unsaved person having an inability to hear or respond to the Gospel prior to "regeneration." In addition, the Bible doesn't speak of any kind of regenerated state that stands as...

But the Bible doesn't say that. That's my point. "Inability" is a Calvinist teaching; it is not a biblical teaching. It is something that Calvinists are adding to the Scriptures and as such, is a false teaching.

I would say that it is probably time to start collecting passports.

If someone is having a vision or a dream and the vision or dream is saying exactly what the Bible says, then what is the point of the dream/vision? If the information is already in the Bible and available, then the vision was unnecessary. In the Bible dreams and visions were revelatory, they...

I am not against teaching that unregenerate humanity is depraved I am speaking against the added element of "inability" that Calvinists add to the concept. That "inability" is not contained in Scripture.

But that is not what I am referring to. Those whose disabilities hinder their understanding isn't what we are talking about. I simply referred to the Calvinist claim that we are all born unable to hear the voice of God until God "regenerates" the elect. The Bible supports no such doctrine.

I did not attribute that value to the II Tim. 3:16-17. But the Bible does meet all of the needs of the human heart in that it addresses those needs and how God fulfills them all. The Gospel is understandable to anyone. The deeper truths that Paul was actually talking about in 1Cor. 2 are...

That was only a partial hardening and not what Calvinists refer to when they talk about the inability of some unregenerate to hear/obey the Gospel. Nothing in the Bible supports this added concept of inability. And besides, the Bible doesn't use the word "regenerated" to refer to some...