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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Like I stated before, Often times men are looking at the same thing just from differing viewpoints or angles. I've spent 10-12 years almost driving myself crazy over these issues. And it all comes from tampering with the mind of the High and Lofty one. :BangHead: In the beginning, I was Arminian...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Absolutely Brother. Faith and repentance are gracious gifts from God. They are evidences of the new birth, not causes of the new birth. The new birth is what enables depraved man to even see himself as a sinner. Faith is my assurance. I can fully trust in Christ's FINISHED WORK on the cross and...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    New Jersey? My wifes Aunt had a beach house in Ocean City we used to go there every year when my kids were little. Small world. FYI... If I lived in Jersey I would attend Welsh Tract Primitive Baptist Church on Welsh Tract road in Newark Delaware. This is where Elder James F. Poole used to...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Hey Thanks Brother! That sounds good. I've already registered over on the Old School forum, and I appreciate the invite. Escatology? I've studied this thing until my poor little human mind became Exhausted. :BangHead: Officially, I don't believe that Rev. 20 was written for nothing. I honestly...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    The conversation between Christ and the thief took place BEFORE he Cried "IT is finished" Thus, at that point the work was not complete. "It is finished" is the last thing he said before he gave up the ghost :thumbs:
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Thank you everyone for the Warm welcome. It's been a pleasure. The Reason I started this thread is because Google can be a limited tool for locating and reading about each Primitive Baptist Church and what they believe. Most pb's don't have telephones so even an address search can require a...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    I certainly don't have all the answers. But what about the thief on the cross? No one asked him to "receive Jesus". He was quickened by God. There was no completed work on the cross to believe in because at that point Christ had not Finished it. He was saved BEFORE he confessed anything with his...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Hey Pinoybaptist, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do this or not but I copied and pasted a post from a thread back in 2001. This Guy seems to feel like I do on the issue. Also, I'd like for it to be known that I very much believe in Time Salvation, except I believe that the Author of Time...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Yes sir. I didn't mention the "no hellers" as a third category because i was not sure how many were still around. The Time Salvation type seems to be the most common around here ( Piedmont N.C.) I've attended Abbott's Creek Primitive Baptist Church before and they at least historically...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    I believe that : "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Phillipians 1:6) And that: "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." (Phillipians 2:13) And that: " the...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Just for clarification: Sovereign Grace Baptist Church was NOT a primitive baptist Church. It is now dissolved. Also, The current Preacher at Flat Creek Primitive Baptist is brother Wayne Gravely. Very good man. They DO NOT believe in Absolute Predestination but I do attend there and feel at...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Yes, the Absolute Predestinarian View is that God hath before decreed all that will ever come to pass. That is how each event has unfolded EXACTLY as was prophesied many years before. They maintain this position and VEHEMENTLY DENY that: 1: God is the Author of sin 2: Men are blocks of...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    I cannot Rightly Call myself a Primitive Baptist at this point because I have not been "re-baptized" in a Primitive Baptist Church. theologically however, I believe in Primitive Baptist principles. Which I have spent a considerable amount of time studying. I believe that the only way one CAN...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Yes Sir, I used to go to a Church called Sovereign Grace Baptist Church in Salisbury but I found that the "sovereign" wasn't quite Sovereign enough ;) Anyway that Church was absorbed into a larger Church and I began to attend Primitive Baptist Churches in my area. This was about 2 years ago. I...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Like I prefaced the original post, I really don't intend for this to turn into a Theological Debate because I see that men much more qualified than me have already covered the same ground. But, I will take a stab at your question. There are two factions if you will within the Primitive...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Thanks Brother, I have been on a journey from Synergism to Finally (Absolute)Monergism over the past 12 years as I've been given eyes to see my own sinfulness and inability to do anything good or right except what Christ worketh in me and I dare not take credit for that or try to bask in some...
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    Absolute predestinarian Primitve Baptist Churches in N.C.

    Hello all, I'm a newbie here so please bare with me because I'm sure some of these topics have been discussed before. I recently saw an old thread (2003 maybe) about the great gulf between various primitive baptist Churches. I'm not really posting this for the purpose of Theological discussion...
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