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These quotes are Calvin's and you are scared of even reading them

As I keep on saying, anyone speaking of square root of 4 is necessarily talking about 2. Whether they say so is irrelevant. It is ridiculously funny that they go ahead and deny talking about 2. I have picked up the Fall. Calvin rejects freewill terming it as fiction. Can you please explain to...

Fair enough. there is no random power, or agency, or motion in the creatures Like I shared, I'm interested in what Calvin is effectively communicating not his intentions or objectives. He is reassuring that God is in control because God would have to knowingly and willingly decree every...

I was equally agnostic on the same till I ran into these quotes of his. Have you taken time to read them? If you did, all your doubts would dissipate. Permit me not to quote them again for if you,or anyone else, can't or won't read them, what confidence do I have that they will read them now...

And as I said, there is a special place for mystery in theology. I gave a few examples too. But mystery does not redeem hopeless contradictions. So Calvin may no more appeal to mystery merely because the inspired Paul appealed to it than he may pen an epistle just because Paul did. If I...

Oh, 'secondary' causes? But is that will itself not subject to God ad Calvin himself readily acknowledges in the statements I quoted?

I started a thread on these terms and I wish to deal with them there. But how does God 'set his love on those of His choosing'? In other words, it is a question of causal determination. Can God with absolute infallibility know the future unless he causally determines acts of men? Philosophers...

I'm sorry but predestining 'everything' including thoughts and intents and shirking from their consequences is pure nonsense regardless of how loudly he protested to the contrary. Anyone who interacts with Calvin even at a distance would immediately appreciate that He was an astute scholar...

I can also throw a counter link. Please interact with these statement s instead of sending me on a wild goose chase

How do you know?

Read OP. This is not about Calvinists, bible nor what God can('t) do but what John Calvin said on the subject topic.

Sorry for that and thank God all is well Thank you, bring them on Wrong. One does not have to harbor doubts about their arguments or theories to be disingenuous; they may simply be tying 'loose ends', I mean who does not cherish 'neat' theories? So Calvin appeals to mystery to get around...

Could a kind soul help me with simple definition of these terms and how they are related to one another?

@JonC , I believe this thread has accomplished its purpose which was to demonstrate that Calvin charged God with authoring sin from his writings. As I said, this is one of the reasons I abandoned Calvinism which you have wisely clarified that it's bigger than John Calvin. While you point is...

Because God is sovereign yet; 1. God is Light and in Him is no darkness (1 John 1:5 ) 2. A heart that devises wickedness is an abomination to Him (Proverbs 6:18) 3. Israel committed sins God never imagined (Jer 32:35) 4. Satan and not God is the father of lies (John 8:44) Meaning he is...

Calvin appeals to mystery often even as Martin attempted to advance above, probably an indirect way of asking me to back off. Now, in Christianity or theology there is a place for mystery.....a huge place. God self-existing(Uncaused Cause) Holy trinity,resurrection, book of Revelation, are...

I picked this portion of your quote because you indicated that account could swing either way;God ordaining or merely allowing and utilizing. Without tons of proof texting, I think all the scriptures I know are unambiguous on God's nature; He is Light,in Him is no darkness (1John 1:5),and also...

Of course they do. But sovereignty is no authorship. God by sovereign decree made man with free/independent will. He is not the author of independent thoughts man comes up with, else man is really not free, and in doing whatever he does, he is in God's perfect will, which means God eternally...

One of these fine days I will examine Arminius with a fine toothcomb. Sin is simply rebellion against God's Law or commandment. Not sure there is another definition. Evil is slightly more philosophical. For this I focussed on sin to avoid definitions from needlessly derailing the thread. If...

Isn't it clear from the subject of this thread, and OP that the subject is John Calvin? Stop spamming:p:p