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Is whataboutism all you have?

So how come we're not prepared to sacrifice our children for the same rights? I agree that you are a violent people. So are we. So why do you have so much more.of a problem with gun violence that we do here?

And in a democracy the police are subject to the government elected by the people are for the people. And don't view guns as the 'cure all' against a despotic government that has the police and army to back it up: parts of the Polish Home Army and Ukrainian Resistance refused to disarm against...

As cab all religions if misused...including Christianity, as history has demonstrated

English translation of Magna Carta Where? Very rare. Likewise rare and tend to be gang related ie: one vriminal with abgun shotting another criminal with a gun And how exactly is a guy with a gun in a nightclub supposed to stop someone who's just thrown avid at him (our latest acid attack)...

Some Nazis and associated far right nuts have it but most normal people here treat Muslims as the decent human beings they are

I have no objection to the police being armed. It's all the other Toms, Dicks and Harrys I worry about

What has your Islamophobia got to do with anything?

More Whataboutism

Until you find a better way of stopping legally held firearms from being used to massacre children then, heck, yes!

Works here. And how can you tell which are the good guys with guns and which are the bad guys? Let me know how that's working for you..

Fixed your quote for you.

And no good reason why either should routinely be in civilian hands. 'Self-defence'? With one of those? You gotta be kidding me! [Edit: Name calling]

No one has browbeaten us: we live in a democracy and successive governments, elected by us, have legislated to protect us from gun nuts wielding what had up until then been legally held mass murder weapons. And I for one am.extremely glad they did it. Ok thats quite shocking that the police...

That demonstrates a problem with policing and doesn't detract from your problem with guns. Fix the police and then fix the guns.

So how many schoolkids have to die before you change your mind? And I'm sure African Muslim matriarchs have the same "we dont care what others think of us" two fingers up to the rest of the world attitude as right wing American gun nuts. Doesn't make either of you right.

Your 'argument ' is equivalent to "let's not worry about young women getting murdered because plenty of them will get raped anyway ". I'm sure there are Imams in Africa who would say the same about those who are against FGM

So you just have ad hominems. Are you able to address any of the actual points?

Quite well, because the stats are bogus: I don't have to fear that when I send my kids to school that they'll be shot up by some nutter with a semi-automatic assault rifle. By allowing seventeen kids and their teachers to lose their lives. Right... Carpro disagrees with you there.

A needlessly binary comment that dodges the issue