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Love begins with Christ, Cathode, I think you know that. Then, as the Scripture says, that love is spread abroad in us. That's when the works begin proving the faith.

If we don't believe this then we are in trouble!

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Faith that Jesus Christ died for my sins and rose from the grave on the 3rd day. Faith in what He did for me will deliver me from the wrath God. A faith generated in the heart with love for the One who gave Himself for me. A working faith not to get saved but because I'm, saved.

No I;m saying that Paul told us we are justified by grace through faith, without works. That only leaves faith, as in faith alone. Man can onlly imagine himself saved by fatih or works, Paul said faith and no works. How hard is that to figure out?

Who would ask what "faith alone" means? It's being justified by faith alone, pretty simple, right?

That is the short explanation of justification by faith that I seriously doubt a Catholic priest would understand.

I work because I'm saved not as the Catholic that works to get saved.

I do as James says, I show my faith by works for the Lord, not making the works essential for salvation in my works. That's what is not understood.

I'm asking you if he would understand Justification by faith alone as I believe, and you are questioning if I'm saved with your line of questioning. That's how far apart we are, not even in the ballpark.

So it seems he more than likely would avoid my questions with questions. I could see that happening.

I'm surprised you read the SRB, are you a dispensationalist?

@Cathode I don't know a single practicing Catholic, so when I have a question I ask you. I hope you don't mind that. I was wondering if told a Catholic priest that I believe in salvation by Grace through faith alone without works for my initial salvation, would he understand what I meant? The...

That has been and still is a very popular Bible in the IFB ranks in my area with its focus on Dispensationalism. The original is the KJV and I've got one somewhere around here that my pastor gave my Dad when he was saved years ago.

Where are you gonna be preaching next week? I want to tune in.

Cool Hand Cathode, what we have here is a failure to communicate. Our view of the purpose for the Lord's Supper is not in the ballpark together.

We don't have to because it's true, but I think it not a bad idea to stop using it, or at least when it is said to clarify the difference.

Charlie was interpreting for you how we can eat and drink unworthily, without faith in what He was about to do on the Cross.

Well, I can't very well argue with that, let's nip in the bud then, that's the IFB way.

Well, to be honest about it, I also avoid using the phrase "totally depraved" unless I have to go into detail on the matter. It's associated with a different meaning in Calvinism, and can be misleading as to its true meaning. But nevertheless the phrase is true, but we need to know the...