Search results

When Paul said that they are not all Israel who are Israel he was denouncing Israel's claim that Israel was saved (national salvation) by the fact of being the birthright of their father Abraham. Notice Paul said, not as though the Word of God has taken none effect, they are not all Israel...

I'm babbling on now, but this is where Covenant Theology went off the rails. It doesn't recognize this fact of Israel, the separation of the Church and Israel in God's plan.

What we must understand is the Church is God's second choice, the nation of Israel are the chosen not the Church. And the chosen (Israel) will be restored to what God originally planned for them to be in this world.

When John the Baptist and Christ came preaching to Israel "Behold the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand" the Kingdom was being offered to Israel at that very time. But they rejected Christ and the Kingdom was given to the Church to fulfill Israel's calling. But Paul tells us that Israel has a date...

You are correct in that the Kingdom was taken from Israel when the religious leaders rejected and crucified Christ. You are correct that the Kingdom was given to the Church/Gentiles to carry Christ to the world. Where you are wrong is that Israel has not been cast away, as Paul said. They...

This is going nowhere. The 14th of Nisan is preparation day for the High Day Sabbath. John says in 19:14 it was the preparation of the Passover, this is when Christ was being examined by Pilate during the trial. So we can't agree on anything.

"If that has already been accomplished how do you explain Isaiah 14:1-3. For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. 2 And the people shall take...

When you figure it out let me know so I can contact all the scholars in the world with the evidence.

Everyone agrees Christ was crucified on preparation day, but the exact date of that day is unknown. The problem is the High Day that week, how did that work in harmony with the Gospels? That's why we have a possible Wed., Thur., or Fri. You have Christ crucified on the 15th of Nisan, that is...

As long as there are 2 scholars left in the world that will be refuted by one.

But yet we don't the exact date of our Saviors birth and death. Go figure! Only one explanation, God didn't intend for us to know in one way or another.

Read the 2 different interpretations a few times and give it some thought for a few days. It will sink in, go sit on the porch and peel an apple, that's when stuff happens, lol.

It will come to you when you're on the porch peeling an apple, or something like that.

Those dates can't be confirmed. We don't know the exact year Christ was crucified.

I'm wondering if you hold the view of Josephus and Talmud, or the alternative view. I hold the former while I believe you hold the latter.

Now which interpretation are you using for the evening of the 14th of Nisan?

I pulled up something I think may help define what time the evening of the 14th of Nisan occurred. I think maybe this is our misunderstanding. The evening of the 14th of Nisan (Passover) refers to the time "between the two evenings," interpreted by historical and Temple records as the...

We are not agreeing on how the days work in Jewish time. I'm repeating myself over and over, so it seems we are wasting each other's time. So to each his own as my Dad would say. I agree to disagree.

You have just described a Wed. crucifixion! Wed. being the preparation day that Christ was crucified, the 15th being the next day Thurs. the High Day.

This is where the Wed. crucifixion comes into view. In Mark 14:12 "And the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they killed the Passover..." We know the Passover sacrifice is not killed on the High Day Sabbath, as many here wrongly interpret. Mark is referring the first day of Unleavened Bread...