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You understand, you don't just have faith, and then live like a Devil correct? Saving faith produces fruit.

Likewise with a lot of denominations. The Amish are their own group, I really am not sure what they truly believe. You are correct Mennonites, do not believe in Eternal Security.

You said "Mennonites" not Menno Simons don't believe in faith alone 1645 Dordrecht Confession. Neither baptism, supper, church, nor any other outward ceremony, can without faith, regeneration, change or renewing of life, avail anything to please God or to obtain of Him any consolation or...

I was raised mennonite, How do you figure?

It doesn't make anyone a "duspy".

Thank you for that explanation

Can you exegete verse by verse Romans 9, Use what Grandma taught you. ( I laughed all day at that) that was funny! :Biggrin

It says they are responsible for ONLY what God revealed? So can they be saved without a human agent preaching the gospel?

A woman who asked him why God had planned that husband had an affair and left her. He told her, "God did the best he could at the time, he didn't know what the husband would do later". Yes, I stay away from people who say that. Providence in Open Theism

You always seem to step in and make the conversation so much more productive.

Nah, it was not rude.

You said everyone hearts, what about people that no one preached too, and then died.

You never answered, How does he knock on the hearts that die never hearing the gospel?

It seems that no one can read because looking anywhere at the Theme of Romans I keep finding the same thing. "Paul’s primary theme in Romans is the basic gospel, God’s plan of salvation and righteousness for all humankind, Jew and Gentile alike (see 1:16–17 and notes). Although justification...

Please elaborate, can they be saved then without the gospel preached to them?

Every heart? What about those who never heard the gospel and die not hearing?

If you stick to this sort of information, you actually make sense. Im proud of you. :Thumbsup:Thumbsup:Thumbsup:Thumbsup Ive have used it though when I was younger in my rebellious teen years, I don't see medically what marijuana does besides make you eat more, or the other strand that just...

Just like the Natural Man lacks ability to understand and come to God..... Funny how that works.

So how much studying on this subject have you actually done?

"We can change our brains this proves freewill" Oh my......