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  1. M

    There Were No Winners

    But I think I'll take your advice on this thread and give it a rest: I've stated my view, to which I adhere and with which you and others take issue, and you and others have stated yours, with which I disagree. We are not going to convince each other and in many ways our debate reflects the...
  2. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    Displaying your ignorance of the fact that these are mutually contradictory positions
  3. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    Neither. Christian Socialist is perhaps the closest to describe me, although I am probably to the right of some of them. Not 'liberal' (I am anti abortion).
  4. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    Since when was being on the side of justice and equity 'extreme'? It may indeed be a minority view but it's one I'm pleased to espouse as a Christian and stand with the OT prophets (who evidently didn't get your memo) the poor and downtrodden.
  5. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    I'm anti fascist. I'm not alt left or far left, just on the side of justice and equity, so plain old left if you want a label.
  6. M

    There Were No Winners

    That cuts both ways of course
  7. M

    There Were No Winners

    No false witness: those who condemn those who are against fascism are giving oxygen to the fascists. Perfectly logical as well by the way.
  8. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    Can you not see then that you are enabling the Nazis by condemning those who are against them?
  9. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    Good that I have become irritating to you. Long may it be so. I have no problem in restating that there is no moral equivalence between anti fascist Jews, Christians including ministers and associated protesters in the one hand and armed to the teeth genocidal Nazis and KKK members on the...
  10. M

    There Were No Winners

    You'd like that I guess. Sorry to disappoint you but I think it important more than ever that you hear voices like mine, given what you have posted here. You say it's illogical; I say it's quite simple - to quote the Lord, "If you are not for us you are against us": if you are not anti fascist...
  11. M

    There Were No Winners

    Explain your 'argument '.
  12. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    All of us here are, I hope, anti fascist by definition as Christians. What else is there to argue about?
  13. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    No. Most people aren't Nazis. [Cp: 'equally violent'. Your use of language is part of the problem. I have already given you eyewitness testimony. Tell me which of these were 'equally violent'?]
  14. M

    There Were No Winners

    https://pics.me.me/nice-people-made-the-best-nazis-my-mom-grew-up-13296660.png
  15. M

    There Were No Winners

    Donald Trump says Rebel Alliance must also take blame for violence as Death Star had all the required permits
  16. M

    There Were No Winners

    You're empowering the Nazis with comments like that, which is a great shame.
  17. M

    Please tell me where in Trump's rant he endoorsed the alt-right crazies???

    There's a term for those who blame both sides at Charlottesville: it's 'Nazi sympathiser' The president of the United States is now a neo-Nazi sympathiser | Richard Wolffe As my (rather scared at the moment) Jewish friends would say, "Enough, already!"
  18. M

    There Were No Winners

    Not according to the accounts of people who were actually there: What the “Alt-Left” Trump Despises Was Actually Doing in Charlottesville Last Weekend
  19. M

    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Judge for yourself from these accounts of people who were actually there: What the “Alt-Left” Trump Despises Was Actually Doing in Charlottesville Last Weekend These are the 'alt-left' whom you President blames in part for the violence. I see ordinary folks being defended from fascist violence...
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