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Yes we have. It's not our fault you don't believe it. I have not been deceived. I have been entertained by your amusing ramblings though. Does everything in Revelation happen literally right to the letter?

Says who?

According to robycop3?

Salt shaker

WHERE IS THE PROOF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN? WHERE YOU THERE? THE THIRD TEMPLE IS AS PHONY AS A FORD CORVETTE AND A CHEVY MUSTANG. THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT FUTURISM IS PHONY. YOU CAN NOT PROVE THE THIRD TEMPLE OR THE AOD. This is how you sound, And you expect us to listen to you?

And this is why your credibility to me is that of an empty salt shaker. When you start calling people you don't understand charlatans.

Are you trying to convince yourself?

FWIW this was my position before searching preterism.

I think you mixed up the definition of asinine and constructive so let me help. con·struc·tive kənˈstrəktiv/ adjective 1. serving a useful purpose; tending to build up.

So you disagree with what your grandfather said? Where he says he will rule the world? Happy Thanksgiving John! have a Blessed Day!

I believe you are correct, the kingdom was available, But until AD 70 it had an "rival". It wasn't until the destruction of the OC temple where the kingdom came into power unequaled.

John R Rice So it is a two phase Parousia with the first phase not being a physical coming? But if thats the case, how can Parousia always mean physical coming? Or Is it two physical comings? I thought you said John, the Antichrist doesn't rule the world?

That would be helpful :Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao:Roflmao:Biggrin I dont think superman existed in bible times, but I could be wrong. Do you have any supporting documents on this? :D

so you do not believe in a secret rapture before the "great tribulation"? What is your idea of the rapture?

1st thes 4:13 According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. So if John is saying the parousia is the second coming and a physical return of Christ, then how can you...

So the Lord is coming in the air and then turning right back around? Isn't a resurrection going on here as well?

ROFL! That is really funny. Wow

Well I meant its not spelled out.

Alright, I understand now. Then what is this final antichrist going to do?

But there is no rapture in the bible. I read your grandfathers writing on it, he inserts the rapture in the olivet discourse, I don't see where he gets that from. Do you believe Thomas Ice? I watch enough debates with him and preterists.