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And here we are again! I am asking for one verse that it clearly can not mean the current generation and must be used as race. I am not arguing the lexicon meaning. I am arguing the fact that in the gospel it's used as a literal present generation. I was carrying around a file to sharpen the...

Matthew Poole sums this up nicely 5. The Ninevites, though upon the preaching of Jonah they made a show of repentance, yet returning to their former sins were soon after destroyed; so were the Jews within forty years after Christ’s ascension. That was a "sign to their own desire" the...

I have? From John? A few of them were the wrong word. And I explained the other two before the thread was closed, so PLEASE don't say I ignored them!

Please show me all the verses where it is used as race then and not the present generation.

Literal? How is a 2000 year gap in a 490 year prophecy literal? How is any unnatural use of "this generation will not pass" literal? How is taking "i'm coming soon, at hand quickly" meaning 2000+ years literally? 2nd Thess 1 5.All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result...

Please enlighten me where we got torpedoed.

Why dont you head on over to the Matthew 24 Fulfilled topic and make your case? You never seem to have a case, your only defense is, the word PROOF AND CAPITAL LETTERS. We can't prove what you are asking, how can we prove your own fantasy about what the bible teaches? I asked you simple...

In no way what so ever is that a literal verse. Try again.

Give me one literal verse, of a future antichrist sitting in a rebuilt temple for 7 years. whats more literal? daniel 9:24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting...

To deny is the antichrist is a more natural interpretation. You need to add a 2000 year gap in a prophecy of 490 years. And then, bring that into Matthew 24 ignoring the parallel chapter in Luke. Jerusalem surrounded by armies. Matthew 12:41 "The men of Nineveh will stand up with this...

Matthew 3:7 Doesn't have the word Genea in it . Neither does 12:34 nor 23:33 And I don't see how anything other then the present generation is implied in the other verses.

How could you escape the second coming and why would anyone want to? This is clearly a reference to the destruction of Jerusalem, Im not fleeing to Judea anytime soon. Live somewhere cold? I live in upstate NY, average 5-6 feet snow a year! :Biggrin

The prophecy is fulfilled, please read this robycop3

I have not heard good arguments in favor of something else, You probably could Teach me a wealth of information that I do not know, This is do not doubt.

Where else is Genea "better" translated race? Matthew 24 4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you 9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation" 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look...

I am looking forward to this after reading your old posts!

Why would I need to explain something already explained perfectly in the OP?.

How did it go down then? Its what I said about Genos and Genea wasn't accusing you of this. And I already admitted my lack of scholarly education of Greek, but that seems to be repetitive. You just spent a whole post refuting what I said with the wrong word, and you know the Greek. I do not...

Isn't that exactly what I said????? Then you refuted me with and now you are saying Genos often means Race, and Genea is a different word with different range of meanings. UM!!!?

I do respect John, I do listen to what he has to say. I Just don't see how his "education" matters in Interpretation of Matthew 24. If thats my ignorance, then so be it. Ill admit it. I certainly would have much to learn from him, and everyone on here. But Im only saying in the sense of the...