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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    If you want to talk about methodology, I don't see much equivalence between throwing urine-filled bags on the one hand, and turning up to a Nazi rally armed to the teeth with assault weapons.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Anyone who fights Nazis is a Good Guy as far as I'm concerned, as a starting point. I'm astonished that this is even in doubt on a Christian discussion forum, but we live in strange times...
  3. M

    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Keep spouting your false moral equivalence. That speaks volumes about you, for which David Duke undoubtedly thanks you.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Both BLM and Antifa are a coalition of disparate groups united by the common maxim of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'. As such, there will inevitably be fringe elements espousing kookie causes. But their basic aims - to combat racism and fascism - are ones which I hope all Christians can get...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    False moral equivalence which enables the Nazis. David Duke sends his thanks. Keep digging...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    No there isn't. The actions of a few fringe extremists do not inform the principle stated aim of the groups, which are laudable: in the case of BLM, to stop the disproportionate number of blacks being gunned down by the police and, in the case of the anti fascist movement, to...er...oppose...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    I think you'll find that the Democrats effectively repented from that past (Civil Rights Act, anyone?). I'm not aware of the Nazis and KKK abandoning the achieving of white supremacy by violence. Are you?
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Do you mean he never said it? Because you can watch the interview if you think the transcript is bogus. Or do you mean he's a liar? Because he could have lied a lot more powerfully if he was telling pokies. His account has been backed up by others who were there, unlike you and I who were not.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Source: eyewitness account Cornel West & Rev. Traci Blackmon: Clergy in Charlottesville Were Trapped by Torch-Wielding Nazis | Democracy Now!
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    MPs from all parties - including his natural allies, the Conservatives, have condemned Trump's remarks: Theresa May on Trump comments: Far-right should always be condemned - Theresa May on Trump comments: Far-right should always be condemned - BBC News
  11. M

    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Except Antifa protected civilians including your fellow clergy from the armed Nazi stormtroopers. That at least ought to give you pause for thought.
  12. M

    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Have Nazis in the past committed mass murder, yes or no? Have the Klan lynched blacks, yes or no? Have both groups declared their stated intention to kill, deport or oppress the members of non-white races, yes or no? Have both organisations therefore stated their intent to repeat their past...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Have BLM or Antifa committed mass murder, then? As and when they do, come back to me on the moral equivalence point. Until then, it's a redundant lie which enables the Nazis and Klan, as David Duke confirmed in his comment on Trump's statement yesterday.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    Did the KKK members at Charlottesville lynch any blacks? Maybe, maybe not. But that's not the point: their ideology has and will do so again given half a chance. Which is why no such chance must be given.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    The ideology did. Stop playing games. This is deadly serious and I hope you're better than this.
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    The Nazis did. Nazis were at Charlottesville. And I can't even believe we're talking about this: I mean, Nazis in 2017. My grandfather, a WW2 RAF veteran, would have climbed into his Lancaster bomber and bombed the living crap out of these evil thugs if he was alive and fit today. [Cp: None...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    1. Yes but not to shout 'fire' in a crowded theatre - under the Constitution. And I would argue that the Constitution should be if necessary amended to proscribe them as they are in Germany, and the KKK, as terrorist organisations like ISIS, given the murderous history and stated genocidal...
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    Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

    And this is how Americans have heroically dealt with large gatherings of Nazis in the past... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e9/43/c6/e943c68714a1feff80e70fe6390b1bcc.jpg
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