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    God's word [and] Dispensationalism

    1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 1 john 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even...
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    What fact was that. Im 27 years old and this isn't very old to me. I have questions. I enjoy proof I can read. If a non christian comes to you and keep asking why? and what? What do you say? If you truly feel I'm wasting your time, then alright no need to reply to me ill understand.... And the...
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    I don't believe it says that in 2nd Thessalonians 2. I believe Jesus came in ad 70 in the way God came to judge nations in the OT. But about the ressurection and "second coming" I'm unsure. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I can see where it's literal but I can also see where it's not Like...
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    What about the 101 verses of the Bible saying the hour is now or he's coming quickly.... Why is that not literal?
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    And where do you come to that conclusion in that chapter?
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    And what do you think this holding back is? Most of the early church wrote it was the roman government, under the Caesar's. Thats why it is not mentioned. That goes back to the point, if the Day of the Lord is fire from heaven where the world comes to an end, and the literal resurrection of...
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    But how where they confused about the Day of the Lord, if its the end of the world?
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    Lets change gears some, for this question has been bothering me for some time now. I would like to hear thoughts from any point of view. In 2nd thessalonians 2 If the concept that the day of the Lord would/will be an awesome event. The physical heavens would be on fire as Jesus descends on a...
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    find a Protestant with a futurisist view before Maitland (who read the Jesuit book) I've searched all day and no record of it anywhere. If you want to deal with facts. You haven't provided one fact of the history of futurism. Sorry but your great great grandfather isn't a source :Tongue
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    Why is it? Because you believe the world will actually end? So if I said it was literal what proof do you have to refute me? There was no Baptists prior to Reformation so the first Baptists obviously were historicists. I still haven't got any proof of futurism in the Protestant faith before...
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    From faith of our fathers. Samuel R. Maitland, in his treatise of 1826, In this he assailed the whole Protestant application of the symbols of the little horn ... Naturally enough, they took over the Futurist view of Antichrist.
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    Im sorry but I just don't see the scripture saying its going to be built. No scripture linking the beast to the man of sin. Can you please provide me with one early church writer that believed this? That believed in a single left behind type antichrist. Wasn't the whole reformation because the...
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    Where does this information come from?
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    ;) Oh but its not, its the People of the prince.
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    Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. The people are...
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    Who is taking down the dome of the rock? 1.6 billion Muslims in this world, and they are just going to let that happen?
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    And where in scripture does it link the beast to the man of sin and an antichrist and to the building of a third temple? 1st John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1st john 4:3 but every spirit...
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    The writer didn't say that was literal or figurative either, so you must take that literally then?
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    John, I wasn't accusing you of doing that. I was only saying DON'T take one because you teach it and I have no college knowledge in this. I have a terrible way of coming off sometimes, in which I don't mean, in a bad way. In other words, Im just asking, so please don't throw your knowledge...
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    51. “I charge you …that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (I Tim. 6:14) 52. “…storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for that which is about to come, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.” (I...
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