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    The Limited Atonement

    For those who do come to Christ, all their names were written in the Book of Life by God the Father from before the foundation of the world. For those who never do believe in Christ, None of their names did God know in His Book of Life nor were there names written down at any time. There is...
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    The Limited Atonement

    In the OC, (OT), they had to offer sacrifices for sins continually. And they continually sinned, so then more sacrifices were made. They also did not have the indwelling Holy Spirit. Even though those who in faith offered sacrifices, what happened when they stopped doing what the Lord had...
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    Jesus said, “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me.” ~ John 12:32

    Yes, saved gentiles are also the elect of God. Paul ministers to gentiles and he calls some elect who have not yet obtained the salvation. Paul recognizes only God's foreknown elect will be obedient to the message of Christ and be sprinkled with His blood, same thing 1 Peter1 teaches. Paul...
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    The Limited Atonement

    People brought their sacrifices for their sins to be an offering, these they provided, so they had faith. I can see the people who are the disputers who love to dig in with their knives. 29 And he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and kill the sin offering at the place of the...
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    The Limited Atonement

    It is not an atonement by definition of the word unless the sins are forgiven by having the blood applied sprinkled on the transgressor, was what I was saying in the first post. Obviously also only the people who had faith performed animal sacrifices, refer to Abraham, and Abel. People who had...
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    Inerrancy of scripture, can you convince a christian it is inerrant

    I wonder if Jesus was walking around in the flesh today speaking about the kingdom of God, how many 'christians' would not agree with Him.
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    CARM forums back up !

    It just comes, when you post anything about a subject in a forum, some people will object.
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    The rise of Calvinism?

    EXAMPLE of what I said earlier that it is the same book. Paul is writing about these christian people who labored with him, Philippians 4:3And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names...
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    Inerrancy of scripture, can you convince a christian it is inerrant

    Then it is a matter of degrees of inerrancy and infallibility, you have opened the door, playing the part of the devil's advocate, did God really say that you would die? Then we have Jesus telling us this, John 10:34-36 New King James Version (NKJV) 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written...
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    CARM forums back up !

    In past years I posted there a few times as a calvinist of course. The opposition to calvinism there felt so dull as elsewhere as it always feels uninspired.
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    The rise of Calvinism?

    I looked at that site and what comes to me is there is only the book of Life, why separate this into the book of Life, and the book of Life of the Lamb, there is no life outside of Christ, so how can there be a Book of Life outside of Christ. They are the same Book. People who support another...
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    The Limited Atonement

    Your adding on ideas that are not there. The denial of an unbeliever is God does not give us eternal life by the Son, and the life is not in Christ cause Christ is not the Son of God, not this other idea that Christ did not die for me. Your just straining at gnats and making up things. An...
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    The Limited Atonement

    Yup, Lamb slain from the foundation of the earth, which was before the creation of man on the 6th day. So then the atonement of Christ is right there at the very beginning. Animal sacrifices were meant to teach the people of God about the Christ to come who would die for them and having the...
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    Jesus said, “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me.” ~ John 12:32

    The OC way of the relationship that God has with man has passed away. God demonstrated that to all even physically with the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Any temple rebuilding, God has not allowed, God has not allowed the Jews to reinstate temple sacrifices. If any such temple is...
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    The Limited Atonement

    There is a principle at work here that animal sacrifices point to the future atoning sacrifice of Christ, and that Christ's work and ministry is taught in the Old testament scriptures. It does not matter if they were done after the law was give or before the law was given. No distinction OT...
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    The Limited Atonement

    You are taking an unsupportable position here about the sacrifices and offerings done in the Old Testament. The Law simply codified what had before been not written down. What you believe is until the Law was given there was no establishing a covenantal relationship between man and God, which...
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    The Limited Atonement

    You came on here saying it only applied after the law was given, thereby attempting to nullify my original post. And I correctly showed you the atonement by blood sacrifice started from the beginning. You need to really consider the error your holding onto about the atonement.
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    The Limited Atonement

    This article describes the error some people hold onto about the atonement. A Closer Look: Jesus and Atonement in the Old Testament Many Christians think atonement in the OT originated with the Mosaic law, but in reality humans recognized their need for atonement long before the time of Moses...
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    The Limited Atonement

    The BLOOD Atonement system, shedding of blood for forgiveness of sins and sacrifices came before the Law was given. So what you said earlier is an error, but I dont think see that yet.
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