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In other words, the Republic of Ireland - completely the other side of the Atlantic.

For those of you here who believe that the ecclesial organisation headed by an elderly gentleman in the Vatican is the Spawn of Satan, when do you say this organisation started up and hence when did Christianity start to go horribly wrong? Was it 1. When the last of the Apostles died (what I...

Those who claim that tongues have ceased are adding to Scripture...

It's weird, you know, I've never noticed that word 'American BaptistBoard' in the title of this Board...

Vuvuzelas are indeed an abomination unto the Lord. But if you want a limp-wristed game, look no further than American Football: rugby for poofs! If they took all their padding off, I might take them a bit more seriously...!

You heretic! It's the Beautiful Game! More seriously, there are pros- and cons- with regard to secularisation viz a vis the Church. On the one hand, I am a firm believer in the separation of Church and State (you might find that odd, coming from an English Anglican!) and also against the whole...

Andre, I would recommend Justification by Tom Wright (former Bishop of Durham, England) as further reading. A review is here.

To use your own words, that's a 'giant unwarranted assumption'. Since you are sola Scriptura, chapter and verse to support your assertions, please.

None of which addresses my concern.

Then what on earth is the point of the New Covenant???

A man who can't tell the difference between ante- and anti- probably wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the behind. "Never trust a man who doesn't know his Greek prefixes."

Then can we also agree that, being under the New Covenant, its signs are likewise the Real Deal, as opposed to those under the Old Covenant?

Well, word-games aside, can we at least agree that Christ is the Real Deal as opposed to the earlier sacrifices which preceded and pointed towards Him?

Oh no, please PLEASE go and learn some Greek. Then you would know that Christ cannot be an antetype, since ante- refers to what has gone before, in this case, Christ and therefore cannot be Christ Himself. The 'types' under the Old Covenant to which you refer are, strictly and...

Isn't that meant to be a prelude to mass suicide, though? (Jimmy Jones, IIRC.) Sounds a bit OTT; my phrase simply means 'keep taking the medication', which IMO is a little more benign, not carrying, as yours does, connotations of wishing the imminent demise of the recipient...:smilewinkgrin:

Right, so that's why we've got so many denominations and interpretations of the Bible, because it's so clear. Riiiiight...Keep taking the pills, mate!

Yes, he does from time to time. We share about our problems, what God's doing in our lives, and generally 'put the world to rights' as men do in such situations.

It's ante- and it means 'before'; therein lies your clue... Again, you really don't get this typology thing, do you? [ETA - Rom 6:2 uses the same aorist tense as vv 3&4 of that chapter, both of which talk of baptism, not in typologocal but in actual terms so what is your point? You...

Hur hur! BP is 39% owned by Americans and now it's got a new American CEO, so no more blaming Britain for it's lash-ups.

Hmm...if you pay attention to Catholic doctrine properly then you will know that Catholics don't re-sacrifice Jesus, they re-present the sacrifice He made once and for all. In so doing, they no more re-sacrifice Him than a fundamentalist evangelist re-sacrifices Him when he speaks or prays about...