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My assertions are worthless if they are not in keeping with the truth of God. For some unfathomable reason, you seemingly deny that there is earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom about the making of musical instruments. In effect, you assert that all wisdom about the making of musical...

You would do well to remember that Christians will give an account to God for every idle word. Your conduct is unbecoming of a mature Christian who submits to God's demand that all his speech must be edifying. It is also unfair to me that comments like these comments that are unedifying use up...

Here is another expert source that says that skull drums are musical instruments:

Here is another source that shows that certain experts do consider skull drums to be musical instruments:

Here is some of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica has under its treatment of "Musical instruments in the Americas": Other idiophones include scrapers, friction idiophones, and plucked idiophones. Scrapers or rasps are serrated objects that are scraped with a stick or other implement. Rasps are...

Just so I am clear about your views, do you deny that human skull drums are musical instruments? Do you deny that they are ungodly in and of themselves?

I am in the process of doing so. I have already shown that sinful humans with their earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom can create statutes and musical instruments that are intrinsically evil. In the same way, what can they do with the kinds of instrumental music that they play with earthly...

I am not at all doing what you say here. I am very serious that there are evil humans who have created wicked musical instruments and wicked kinds of instrumental music with earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom. Christians must categorically reject all of those instruments and all of those kinds...

Show me where the Bible says that drum kits, saxophones, xylophones, keyboards, kazoos etc., etc. are musical instruments.

You can deny all you want that they are musical instruments, but your denial does not carry any evidential weight. The people who make them and use them say that they are musical instruments. Certain expert musicians and other music authorities say that they are musical instruments. More...

All trumpets or only some trumpets?

Good. What else does that mean Christians must do?

The making and playing of human skull drums is plainly sinful human activity of humans who have heeded earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom: Earthly - no beings in heaven are desecrating human skulls to make skull drums and playing them as drums; such activity only takes place on the earth and...

This does not establish that any and all trumpets regardless of any and all considerations are always made and always played with only the wisdom of God.

As far as I can recall, Scripture does not define any musical instruments other than providing some information about the silver trumpets in Numbers 10. It does occasionally provide some descriptors of certain instruments, but no definitions per se.

It doesn't define music, per se. Your turn. Where does the Bible define what a drum is and tell us what are the essential characteristics that a drum must have?

I am not ducking questions. I am choosing to not allow the discussion to move to what is of much lesser importance and value. You did not answer my questions about what is much more important. Do you believe that there is earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom about the kinds of instrumental...

Having engaged in numerous online discussions about music over the years, I have vast experience that Christians routinely try to move discussions about music as fast as possible to discussion of musicological specifics instead of broader biblical and theological discussion that actually...

I stated my point right at the beginning of the thread: #1 With their earthly, sensual, and demonic wisdom, wicked humans have invented and originated musical instruments and kinds of instrumental music that are categorically unacceptable to God.

What the object is does matter. God has commands about worshiping Him with music; He does not have commands about lampshades. You think that my reasoning is flawed, but you have not shown how or why it is flawed. Mere assertion is not legitimate argumentation. You deny that skull drums are...