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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    With multiple arguments, multiple posts, I may miss somethings. I do try to it simple. It helps to know where we agree.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Brother, My use of capital A in angel is merely my acknowledging the deity of the angel of the LORD. If it was Lord, I would not have capitalized angel. If I simply quoted the Biblical text, I would have left it as it was.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    John 1:18, No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Genesis 12:7, . . . And the LORD appeared unto Abram, . . . .
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    How do you understand John 1:18 regarding the preincarnate Christ?
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    You don't understand my point of view. @Ascetic X, has put forth the best argument. Using Revelation 12:7-10.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    @Ascetic X, Has proposed the best argument against the notion the Archangel Michael being a preincarnation of Christ in this thread! A mear denial is not a good argument.
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    Scofield Reference Bible

    My first reference study Bible was the 1917 Scofield edition, I bought as teenager. I accept dispensations. But not necessarily Scofield's seven. I have since concluded salvation is by grace across all dispensations.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Is this a blatant denial of Genesis 22:11-12?
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Assuming an argument not being made.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Huh. It is you who assumes arguments not being made.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    John 1:18, No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    John 8:54-56, Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying...
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Genesis 22:11-12, And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine...
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    Which OT appearance of the angel of the LORD was NOT the LORD? Please give me said reference. [ There are 52 OT verses. ]
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    All I am hearing from you is you think my view is wrong. Do you deny the Angel of the LORD is preincarnate Christ too? Do you agree the LORD who appeared to Abraham was preincarnate Christ?
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    . Was what you gave me with an extra L. ακυλας
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    Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

    A preincarnate condition how He can be with God. John 1:1-3, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. He has always been both...
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