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Man exercising His God give free will is not overriding God's sovereignty, he exercising his free will within God's sovereignty. Which is just as God planned it. God has not determined/decreed all the thoughts and or actions of man. God being omniscient knows all that will happen but that does...

Martin I know what the bible says but the problem that the calvinist has is explaining why that is even necessary for the calvinist. If as the calvinist claims they were elected to salvation prior to creation then was there even the possibility that they would go to hell? Not according to your...

As you said I have an opinion which is based on my experience with various people which is what I had said in my post. Question for you, what are you doing your best to not form opinion about? You did not say.

I would say they have at least room for two many be three more to join their murder. Seems your get rather witty in your old age KY.

Find what is Martin? I do understand calvinism and that is why I reject it. But you comment that I do not understand calvinism is the usual response from calvinists even to those that were calvinists and quote calvinists. It would seem that you have a selective understanding of the particular...

Having just read Martin's comment "Spurgeon et al believed what (almost?) all Calvinists believe: that the Gospel must be preached to all, in the hope and expectation that God will open the hearts of His people to receive the words spoken to them" and then your response brings some questions...

SG says he is not dispensationalist but from what you see in his post he sure studies it a lot. I don't believe in unicorns so I do not study them at all. Sort of makes you wonder if SG is a closet dipsy?

Well @Martin Marprelate it would seem I know more of Calvin and Augustine than you do as I have not been taken in by the false teachings they both promoted. I am also quite certain that Dr. Ken Wilson knows more of Augustine than you or any of your Calvinist hero's do. You can continue to...

I would hope so but I would not base by opinion of whether they were saved or not on the fruit they do or do not produce. Perhaps I am more cautious as I have seen people that by all outward appearances you would say were saved and they were anything but.

IMO many unsaved people can exhibit what man would see as "fruit of the spirit" Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And many of those who have truly...

If they were already born of God then you have made verse 12 moot. Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God It would have no meaning at all. You are putting salvation before belief. That is putting the cart before...

The will of God is that all should come to repentance. 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Are you saying that all are saved or that God failed?

Yes He did. The error is when that fruit is considered the determiner of ones salvation.

I agree that we would have to question someone who says they are saved and yet do not exhibit any of the fruit of salvation. But we do not use the fruit to prove we are saved which I have had those of a particular view tell me is required.

Amazing how blind some people are to the truth of God's word. SG and Dave G have both missed what we are being told. Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— Joh 1:13 children born not of blood, nor of the desire...

You mean those that teach that we can hear the gospel which is the power of God for salvation for those that believe and respond in faith and be saved. No the false teachers are those that think they were chosen before creation and that teach God has to give them faith after they are saved...

So you will continue to run away from the fact that the religious view you hold , calvinism, has those pagan views as it's foundation. Sad really, but some are content to just follow the pack as it feels safe. “DISCERNMENT is not simply telling the difference between what is Right and Wrong...

All Christians came out of some false views so saying Justin Martyr came out of a false religion is not a surprise. But coming out of a false religion is not the problem it is that Augustine brought the false pagan views into the church and Calvin just carried them forward. Clement of...

Have you read all of Augustine? Dr. Wilson did and he came to the conclusion that Augustine incorporated pagan views into his theology. But Wilson is not the only one to say that. You say he left those views behind when he became a Christian but we see those same pagan views in today's...

Since I have not read Mani I can not comment on what he wrote. The problem is what Augustine wrote and what he brought into the church and that calvinism carries forward. Are you saying that these pagan views are not found in calvinism? Stoics, assumed freedom “hidden within a mere facade of...