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BF if you are going to use my words use all of them. "Salvation is possible for anyone but it is potential salvation, if they do not believe they will not be saved." Are people saved that do not believe BF? What you are doing, BF, is dishonest and you know it.

If you had proved it BF then I would not have disagreed with it would I. You saying it is what you claim it is does not help your case. You need clear biblical text and you have not provided that.

Joh 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand. Your view does not fit the text 37. No one snatch them but it does not mean that the person cannot walk away. People can turn away from the faith they had and repudiate God.

{Any, is understood to include self.} Based on what? This does not agree with your view Shall any - The word “any” refers to any power that might attempt it. It will apply either to men or to devils. It is an affirmation that no man, however eloquent in error, or persuasive in infidelity...

Heb 2:9 ...Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone. 1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. 1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as...

Again BF you have to explain your position. Support your position with valid scripture. You have not done that BF.

BF you have to explain your view. I have told you why I do not believe your view and given you scripture that shows your view is wrong.

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I would ask you the same question BF. What do you not understand about my post?

The only thing I would change is that forgiveness is the ongoing act of God to forgive us our sins when we confess them to Him.

If a person does not believe in Christ Jesus then are they saved BF? While God desires all to be saved are all saved? Salvation is possible for anyone but it is potential salvation, if they do not believe they will not be saved. What do you not understand about this BF? Do you think anyone...

BF since Christ died as the propitiation for the whole world does that mean that the whole world is saved? Since He draws all people does that means that all are saved? While He made salvation possible for all people only those that freely trust in Him will be saved. Joh 3:16 For God so...

BF how am I supposed to see what is in a verse that you never provide. You are hollow drum, you just make a lot of noise.

Van if someone falls away from a certain view that means they must have at one time believed it. That is simple logic. You cannot fall away from a faith you did not have. Paul warns of this here: Gal 1:6 I am amazed how quickly you are deserting the One who called you by the grace of Christ...

It is obvious that you do not have any scripture that supports your view BF Saying you have shown it means nothing BF. Proved the verses. The fact you cannot just shows how shallow your view is.

VAN what you saying is that some will fall away from a false faith and turn to the real faith. But that is not what the bible teaches. You cannot fall away from a faith that you did not have. 1Ti 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, Are...

BF you have made comments but you have not provided any scripture to support your view. It 's always the same thing with you BF. You do not answer questions and do not support your false views.

Funny how you say it is in scripture but you do not provide scripture to support your false view. But we do see this Gen 3:17 Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from...

Not what we see in scripture. That is just the calvinist false view.

I did answer you BF, you just ignored the answer. We never are in Adam. We are judged because we sin not because Adam sinned. Because of our sin we will die just as Adam did. 1Co_15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. Note what God said to Adam Gen 3:17...