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You are trying to explain things from your calvinist view. I am pointing that your calvinist view has serious errors. I could quote the words of calvvinists too you and you still would say I got it wrong. Of course I reject the god of calvinism as He is not the God we see in scripture. Your...

The more you post the more you show just how far you have traveled from the truth of God's word. That you claim to preach is scary as you are misleading all those that follow you.

You have a really weird way of reading BF. be justified G1344 G1344 - Original: δικαιόω - Transliteration: Dikaioo - Phonetic: dik-ah-yo’-o - Definition: 1. to render righteous or such he ought to be 2. to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be...

Ken and you are calvinists and support divine determinism that we see in the WCF/LBCF which is clear that God has decreed all things not just some things. That would logically include all the sin and evil we see in the world. Th at is unless you think there is a different meaning to decree...

BF look at what you just posted here. It contradicts your saved at the cross position. Act 13:39 "and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. Note the person has to believe B4 they are justified BF. They have to...

If you actually believe that God is totally sovereign then why do you hold to a religion the denies that truth. Calvinism makes the claim but the reality of that view is just the opposite. Look at your so called DoG/TULIP an unbiblical set of words the turned the love of God into a system of...

So we have a calvinist that finally admits their deterministic religion makes God the author of all the sin and evil in the world. The bible disagrees but should I tell Ken, and @Zaatar71 since he agreed with Ken, he is wrong? It may upset them and I really would not want to do that.

Hi @Dr. Bob I have been trying to get a logical answer from those of the divine determinist view, Calvinists, as to why they are upset that God has determined that some women lead/pastor churches? If God determined it why are they so upset about it?

But you did didn't you @Reynolds. But still no logical answwer from those of the divine determinist view.

Actually calvinists paint all you calvinists with the beliefs of the hyper cal's. “Compatibilism is no less deterministic than hard determinism.” [Calvinist {John Hendryx, How can God be Sovereign and Man still be Free?}] Soft determinism / compatibilism holds that there is human free will...

Well since He did not do that as I have rejected calvinism so that proves your comment wrong. But as usual none of the calvinists can give a logical answer as to why they disagree with female pastors as by their own words God has determined everything. Calvinists do have some real problems...

For someone that says that God is sovereign you sure do not want to let Him be sovereign. Besides I have yet to see @5 point Gillinist give an answer as to why he disagrees with the fact that God decreed that women be teacher/pastors. You say having female pastor goes against God's word but...

ZA you have to change "directs" to determines for it to fit your religion. God gives us direction but He does not determine what we think and do. If you could get past your calvinism you would understand that.

Self will is free will ZA or it is determined by God so then He becomes responsible for whatever the person does. So which is it ZA man or God is responsible for the mans sin? Ordained having been decreed, appointed, or formally established by some authority. That fits right in with your...

But to be able to openly rebel requires a free will ZA. But since you do not think man has a free will then that open rebellion must have been decreed and that makes you wonder why God said He desires all to come to repentance. Calvinists do have an odd view of God when you think through what...

All that was needed was a YES or NO answer but since you can't do that I will take it from the verses you posted that your version of God actually decreed all the sin and evil in the world. So you have now made Him responsible for that. Now to be clear you said "He foreordained EVERYTHING that...

Can't answer a simple question as it would show the errors of your religion. I suggest you stop displaying your foolishness thinking that it somehow makes you look intellectual.

Did not answer the clear question. Want to try again.

Why is it that the average calvinist cannot read and answer a basic question? Did I say they mean the same thing NO. I asked a question and I note you did not answer. You are the typical calvinist that I see on the boards, a lot of blow and bluster but no substance.

Even the evil, the sin?