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    AW Tozer and the Order of Salvation

    1) There are no goats until after physical death. 2) Yes, not all the sheep are "Of My sheep." Those who are not "of My sheep" either do not hear, or do not heed God's word. 3) Paul spoke to men of flesh using spiritual milk, so the claim it is only for those born anew is an unbiblical...
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    Anti-ICE protestors disrupt church worship service

    We can sit on our hands and expect the government authorities to protect of houses of worship. But we should vote those responsible out of office.. But instead, even on this board, we get poster after poster spouting Marxist drivel.
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    LOL, your statement is non-germane. The fact Christ died for the lost while they were yet sinners is not in dispute. This is all they have folks, non-stop nonsense.
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    The truth is the truth

    LOL, your claim was based on his statement he may impose tariffs. Your claim was false. You did not own up. Thus you character has been revealed. I do not know if Greenland needs to be under US control to provide our future national security needs. But NATO depends to a large degree on...
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    Anti-ICE protestors disrupt church worship service

    In a culture no longer committed to truth, we see stories like this and wonder if the protest was not "arranged" to push a political view or bolster an influencer's creds. But we do know for sure, the Atheists and Muslims are both attacking Christian values at every turn. When they were...
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    The truth is the truth

    More addressing me with no acknowledgement of your false statements. Go figure 1) Only those with infantile minds claim to know the unstated thoughts of another. 2) Yes, I want the truth, but it seems you can't handle the truth. 3) Our manufacturing base has been decimated, so we already...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    The verse does not say, foreseen individuals were chosen and transferred into the foreseen Christ to have their foreseen sins washed away. That is your time travel theology, an idiotic absurdity in light of other scriptures which you seem to ignore. Where was Logos before creation? In the...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    You Sir now claim from (since) means "before." There is nothing anyone can say to such an idiotic absurdity.
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    The truth is the truth

    Stop wasting time addressing your mind-reading conclusions about me, and start addressing what I said. Mr Trump did not say He would put tariffs on, he said he "may" put tariffs on. So your claims were material false statements .
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    This is referring to those already reconciled during their physical lifetime after putting their faith in the truth. More false teaching, 1 John 2:2 refers to the whole of humanity, and not only to those who have been reconciled.
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    The truth is the truth

    Lets take these Marxist talking points one at a time. 1) Has Mr. Trump attacked a sovereign country? Yes, both Iran and Venezuela are sovereign countries. The unstated innuendo is that the President lack the power to defend against actual and potential threads by taking limited military...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    1 John 2:2 says Christ became the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, unless that refers to the potential of salvation, the denial pushes the false doctrine of universalism. Try reading the verse this way, Christ reconciled not only us, but the whole of humanity. Not what it...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    Let us consider how "sanctification" is used in 1 Peter 1:2: according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. NASB The verse is addressing those who have...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    More idiotic absurdity, Jesus is the means of reconciliation for all of fallen humanity, but not everyone "receives" the reconciliation. That is why we have the ministry of reconciliation, begging the lost to be reconciled to God. All this wordplay to push false doctrine by inference and...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    LOL, this is a bible study thread, and all the posting Calvinists it seems are dead set against actually studying our verse. They know "from the beginning" refers to the time period since the event indicated by the context, not just the event of creation, but not one seems able to acknowledge...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Interpretive Translation But we should always give thanks to God for you, siblings, beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning of the New Covenant in His blood, for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit, setting the individual apart in...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    Here is a study based on grammar and context of 2 Thessalonians 2:13. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 is a compound sentence, with subjects, verbs, direct and indirect objects. We should always give thanks to God for you as beloved by the Lord. Subject, =We; Verb = should give thanks, direct object =...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    You Sir are the one advocating the rewrite. No one EVER seeks after God, is Calvinism's rewrite. The natural man cannot understand ANY OF the things of the Spirit of God, is Calvinism's rewrite. God chose you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and NOT...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Here is the claim, we are siblings of Christ, thus having an Israelite brother, are not part of the same family. See Hebrews 2:11 folks, we have the same Father, and we are children of the promise, Galatians 3:28-29. Note this poster's claim, "Christians have no part in the promises made to...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Who are the "beloved by the Lord?" Those individually chosen during their physical lifetime and placed within Christ spiritually, becoming a "people for His own possession." These are the people often referred to as "beloved." See 2 Thessalonians 2:13. The "beloved" are siblings of Christ...
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