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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Again, you seem to be making no effort to have an actual discussion. You know the issue is the claim we are made to be the righteousness of God by imputation, a demonic lie. See 2 Corinthians 5:21.
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    Chasing the Wind

    In Ecclesiastes, we find the phrase "chasing the wind" to indicate an act of futility. (Ecc. 1:14) No one can catch the wind, it is beyond our grasp. But in a very different sense, we are to pursue God, who is spirit, so "chasing the wind" might convey our pursuit of God. But is this also an...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    You know you added "His" to the verse. You seem to be pretending God cannot credit righteousness, to a person without making the person just as perfect as when washed with the blood of the Lamb. What reason do you have for the OT saints having to wait in Abraham's bosom to be made perfect...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    NO! Abraham was NOT granted the righteousness of God!!!!!!! Abraham's faith was credited as righteousness to him. Romans 4:9 What is our responsibility to endure "in the faith" to the end? At communion do we not evaluate ourselves to see if we are "in the faith?" 2 Corinthians 13:5. If we...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    What does it mean to "take up our cross" and follow Him? It means we must willingly sacrifice our lives in order to actually follow Christ. We must be "poor in spirit" recognizing our reliance upon God and NOT self sufficient, or relying upon worldly treasures. It is not easy, it is, at least...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    In Matthew 25: 31-46 Jesus teaches about the end of the age of grace. He will begin His Millennial reign, sitting on His thrown. Some have read this passage and conclude, mistakenly in my opinion, that Christ's division will be based on works. But I believe "giving to Christ what He needed"...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    How does Revelation 20:11-15 inform our understanding of when are humans separated like sheep to the right and goats to the left? This judgement occurs AFTER the separation has been performed. Who goes to Hades, sheep or goats? Goats! Therefore the Great White Throne judgement is of goats...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Sorry, I did not address this post, I missed your question. Let us look at the verse: Ezekiel 18:24 NASB “But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness, commits injustice and does according to all the abominations that the wicked person does, will he live? All his righteous...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    No, Matthew 25 is not a passage where groups governed separately, are described by the metaphor of sheep and goats. Nations in Matthew 25:32 refers to where a group of people, comprised of believers and unbelievers are gathered before Christ. They are then separated into those differing...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Please address what I said. Do false teachers get folks who believed some of the right things, to abandon them and go off the rails? Yes. Were the folks entering the kingdom already saved before they were prevented from going in? Nope
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Yes, parallel verses in Mark and Luke have kingdom of God where Matthew has kingdom of heaven. So at least some of the time the phrases are used interchangeable. You will note that those who suggest the phrases sometimes mean different things are short on examples.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    1) Please do not use the Old Covenant to define the New Covenant. Old Covenant no one was indwelt forever and ever. New Covenant we are indwelt forever and ever. 2) No flesh was justified by the Law. What your verse says is "if" you could live a sinless life, you would not die. The rub is...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I said no such thing. You made it up and attributed it me. You seem to have no regard for truth. Just what is meant by the vague phrase, fall away from the faith? Some wrongly use this verse to push the false doctrine of loss of salvation. But here "faith" refers to the gospel information...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    1) Why not stay on topic. We are not discussing that you think the kingdom of heaven refers to the millennial kingdom on earth. 2) The fact humans must be born anew to enter the kingdom of God (not heaven). is not in dispute. See John 3:5 3) The issue is that I believe "nations" in...
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13 Cannot be denied or rewritten

    Yes, both of us should desire that God forbid "Poppycock. 1) Does Matthew 27:52 "designate" the saints as Old Testament Saints? Nope so to make that claim is indeed poppycock. 2) Does Matthew 27:52 "designate" the saints as "believers" (disciples of Christ)? Yes. Basis: They had "fallen...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    1 Timothy 4:1 NASB But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will [fn]fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, Fn "i.e. apostatize" Just what is meant by the vague phrase, fall away from the faith? Some wrongly use this verse to...
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 2

    No individual was chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world, it was a corporate election of the target group of God's redemption plan. (Believers in Christ whose faith might be credited as righteousness) 1) We were once not a people, therefore not yet chosen to be His own...
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    The NASB: Is it really that difficult to understand?

    Yes, I am torn between the NASB and the NASB95. I love the NASB for getting rid of "begotten" for "mongenes" but other changes not so much. If the NASB does not read as I recall, I look at the 95 and sometimes find the translation choice I think is most accurate.
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    The sheep and the goats?

    The text does not refer to "the common people." Yes the text does identify the two groups, those that go to the right inherit the kingdom prepared for them "from or since the foundation of the world. Those that go to the left go into the eternal fire. That Sir describes the two "nations."...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    1) I did not suppose or imply any particular poster thought the division of sheep and goats was based on works. 2) I agree with your description of the human condition, we experience something, we internalize it, making some sense of it, whether we are aligned with reality or not, and then...
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