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SNIP I am sure you were trying to make a point, but just what it was is a mystery to me. G5119 appears 5 times in our passage, Matthew 25:31-46. It always is referring to action taken at that time, when the goats and the sheep will be separated at Christ's second coming. I did not say nor...

The origin of Christmas is the birth of Christ. Something to celebrate in my book...

Right back at you - Marry Christmas. The OT verse Joel 3:2 reads as follows: Then I will gather all the nations, and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. I will enter into judgment against them there concerning my people Israel who are my inheritance, whom they scattered among the...

Thanks, the Greek pronoun translated "anyone" refers to one or some of a group, thus grammatically not the whole nation.

The verse says we were chosen individually through faith in the truth. Here the Calvinist uses absurdity to defend insanity.

According to my understanding of the Opening Post, the originals were 1300 or so years longer, and thus the longer timeline was reflected in the Hebrew copies used in the LXX. But after the advent of Christ, Rabbis altered the Hebrew texts which then became our MT. I may have got it wrong, but...

Not to put too fine a point on it, but 2 Thessalonians 2:13 blows Calvinism out of the water. First, rather than Unconditional Election, scripture teaches we were chosen through faith in the truth, thus a conditional election. Next, to be individually chosen through faith in the truth means we...

The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” [Galatians 3:8] Here we see "Nations" used to refer to both Jews and Gentiles, and that justification comes through individual...

No "nation" can be a born anew sibling of Christ.

Can anyone list a few verses and explain why they fit better with Messianic prophecy with the longer timeline?

Does that mean the original readings were longer by 1300 years?

God chooses individuals for salvation on the basis of crediting their faith in the truth as righteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:13, Romans 4:23-25 2 Thess 2:13 says through faith in the truth, and only by jumbling the word does anyone see "NOT through faith in the truth. Those that believe God...

Sheep and goats are individuals, born anew believers and non-believers.

God chooses individuals for salvation on the basis of crediting their faith in the truth as righteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:13, Romans 4:23-25

God chooses individuals for salvation on the basis of crediting their faith in the truth as righteousness. And not one OT saint was transferred into Christ, who was located in Heaven, before Christ died providing our means of reconciliation. That is why they had to "wait" to be made perfect...

Why does "from the beginning" refer to "from the beginning of the New Covenant," and NOT from the beginning of creation? Answer, no one was chosen by being spiritually transferred into Christ before Christ died. Recall Abraham's bosom, and Jesus declaring no one, not one OT saint, had gone up...

The verse [2 Thess. 2:13] is a compound sentence, with subjects, verbs, direct and indirect objects. There is no separate thought. We should always give thanks to God for you as beloved by the Lord. Subject, =We; Verb = should give thanks, direct object = God; indirect object for you the...

Fine, but I wonder why all the people of one nation are sheep and another nation are goats. :)

I completely disagree that Christ did not come with the gospel of grace for all humanity. And then He said to them, “You foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to come into His glory?” Then...

Yes, our difference seems based on a different understanding of the meaning of the Greek word translated "nations." This word, in this grammatical form, nominative plural neuter, appears about 24 times in our NT. Here, I believe, the word is used to refer to the multitude of individuals all...