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    Hey everyone

    Hi Dave, Your post suggests a willingness to consider what the Bible actually teaches, so start a thread giving your view of "Spiritual Baptism." Who knows, you might be on to something, but you must put some meat on those bones.
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    Potential Candidates for POTUS in 2028

    Ms Clinton Ms Harris
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    School choice

    Here is the issue in a nutshell: Baptists believe in the separation of church and state, primarily so those wielding government power will not dictate what people can publicly believe. No "You have to be a white male Christian to vote." The constitution says the government cannot establish a...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    1) The change of subject, addressing me and not the topic. 2) We are NOT speaking exclusively of a "Day" but of how the Old Covenant models, illustrates and foreshadows the New Covenant. 3) We do not reshape the New Covenant with the Old, the New Covenant reshapes the Old. The issue is...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Following the conversation has nothing to do with your obvious ignorance of scripture and the topic of reconciliation. Rather than admit you did not understand the Old Testament model, you hurl innuendos my way. Classy
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Here is what you falsely claimed: Okay, 'the Jews' weren't being sprinkled. The priests, their robes, and the tabernacle and its furniture were being sprinkled, and lepers for cleansing. Here is what scripture says: "sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, So instead of admitting...
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    Harm of following "Free Grace" Theology

    Saving faith is our individual faith as credited by God alone are righteousness. Any faith not credited is not saving faith.
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    I did not see any explanation, just another post dodging the truth. You need to explain "sprinkled both the book itself and all the people," rather than just remove it from your bible.
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    You need to explain "sprinkled both the book itself and all the people," rather than just remove it from your bible.
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    1) We agree, first we have our faith, and then God credits our faith as righteousness. 2) To address me and not the topic is a dodge, stick to the topic. 3) No one suggested repentance and faith are not essential, so again off topic. For God to credit our faith, it would be a faith like...
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    1 Timothy 2 - All Men

    This should be an excellent thread, the Opening Post asked an excellent question, how do we, bible students discern the scope or extent of a word like "all." Obviously it should refer to the contextual scope, and not be minimized or expanded to a larger scope than intended. Agenda driven...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Hebrews 9:19 Old 1 Peter 1:2 New
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    I) God credited their faith as righteousness to them, having nothing to do with making them righteous. That is only achieved through the blood of the Lamb. 2) A better translation of John 6:40, everyone who becomes aware of Christ and His gospel, and believes "into" Him, will have eternal...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Sorry but I see nothing to rebut. You seem not to comprehend that John the Baptist was the greatest of any human born of women, so any human greater than him must be born anew of something else, i.e. spiritually. If you can't see that, their is nothing more I can say....
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    To be "part of the church" a person must be spiritually born anew, rather than a person whose faith has not been credited as righteousness. If I understand your statement, you believe God chose foreseen individual with or without foreseen faith and predestined them to be put into Christ. But...
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    USA National Debt Clock

    Just a little background. National Debt in Trillions: End of 2008 10.6 Trillion 2012 16.0 Trillion 2016 19.5 Trillion 2020 26.9 Trillion 2024 35.4 Trillion Mr. Obama went up about 5.5 Trillion in first 4 years, about 3.5 trillion in second 4 years. Mr. Trump...
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    Salvation After Death

    How long does the opportunity for salvation exist? As long as: 1) The person is physically alive 2) The person is cognitively alive, not before the age of accountability, nor if their mind is unable to function 3) The person is able to hear and understand the gospel, their heart has not...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Yet another off topic drivel post. These people are purposely derailing an important topic due to an apparent Derangement Syndrome. When I copied and pasted the first sentence of either Baptist Distinctive cited, the High Point source was listed in the first 4 or 5 listings. Way easier than...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    The Old and the New: The sacrifice, provided the blood, provides the means of temporary reconciliation. When the Jews were sprinkled with the blood, they received the temporary reconciliation. Thus the Old pictures or illustrates or foreshadows the New. The sacrifice, provided by the blood of...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Yet another my way or the highway poster unable to grasp the obvious. The concept that Christ's death provides the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, 1 John 2:2, does not suggest everyone has received the reconciliation.
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