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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    The assertion scripture lacks sufficient information to rightly discern the concept of being born anew is false. Matthew 11:11 NASB (See also Luke 7:28) “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Ok, God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world." No isms allowed. 1) Who are the "us?" Born anew believers alive at the time Paul wrote Ephesians 1:4. 2) What does "in Him" mean? a) Does it mean God chose us individually and put us into Christ spiritually before we were...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Yes, but as long as they cling to what they think is true, when in reality it is not true, then they can no longer grow in that area. For example, my understanding and interpretation of Ephesians 1:4 differs from what the "saved before faith" folks believe. If my understanding is closer to...
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    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith?

    Are We Born-Again Before Or After Faith? A segment of believers accept the dark ages relic that the lost are unable to seek God or put their faith in Christ. Therefore they falsely assert the lost are given the ability to believe, enabled spiritually, because they were chosen before they were...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Wild Goose Chase. When I copied and pasted the first sentence of either Baptist Distinctive cited, the High Point source was listed in the first 4 or 5 listings. Way easier than going to a library, obtaining a book, then searching for the citation in 1950's form. OTOH, Baptists believe we are...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    It is fine to be concerned, start your own thread and discuss the need to provide sources and links for all our citations. On the other hand, this thread's topic has to do with growing in our understanding of Baptist Distinctives. Do we embrace legalism, or do we embrace the Law of Liberty?
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Ask the poster of post #84 how he did it. You do see how you have posted two posts off topic, duped by the ploy bait.
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    How are we saved? God chooses an individual for salvation by spiritually setting that person apart in Christ, the sanctification by the Spirit, based on crediting the person's faith as righteousness. In Christ they undergo the washing of regeneration, they are made alive together with Christ...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Good question! Here is what I said: Due to poor translation, some Bible readers are unaware that leaders were elected by a show of hands of the members, the assembly of those called out of darkness into the kingdom. See Acts 14:23 and 2 Corinthians 8:19. The word translated as appointed (or...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    Who said Baptists began before the folks that separated from the Church of England. To go back farther, one must swim back through the Church of England, and then jump into Roman Catholic believers, and back to the Church fathers. Just like everybody else. :) The only point some Baptists make...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    No, it does not help. The usual "ask" for source is simply a ploy to deny the fact and switch subject to sourcing from whatever topic is at hand. Obfuscation on display. When I post, from the internet anyone can copy the first several words and do a search and find the source. Anyone!!!
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Once again the plain truth is denied. Believers are chosen for salvation through faith in the truth. Believers, rich in faith are chosen. Heirs to the kingdom promised to those that love God are chosen. Pay no attention to the unbiblical claims from the dark ages. 2 Thessalonians 2:13...
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    Do You Know the Baptist Distinctives?

    A public posting need not comply with your classroom rules.
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    Utter nonsense, first a change of subject to a "model of Redemption" then the absurd claim physical circumcision counts for anything under the New Covenant. I kid you not, the concept that Christ's death provides the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, 1 John 2:2 is something...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    How are we saved? God chooses an individual for salvation by spiritually setting that person apart in Christ, the sanctification by the Spirit, based on crediting the person's faith as righteousness. In Christ they undergo the washing of regeneration, they are made alive together with Christ...
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    Understanding Deuteronomy 31:19-21

    Obviously, this poster believes he didn't imply I said God did not know the future. These guys are something special...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    How are we saved? God chooses an individual for salvation by spiritually setting that person apart in Christ, the sanctification by the Spirit, based on crediting the person's faith as righteousness. In Christ they undergo the washing of regeneration, they are made alive together with Christ...
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    Universal Atonement With Limited Atonement

    One subject change after another, running from the fact God chooses individuals for salvation based on crediting their faith as righteousness. This is the gospel truth their false doctrine denies.
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    Understanding Deuteronomy 31:19-21

    Ever wonder why certain posters that share a common theological outlook, misrepresent others? I is strange behavior for believers. What I said, " God knew inclinations of the people being brought to the promised land, which they were developing in that day, not the future." What was posted...
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