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K. I get it. This passage is a holy sacred grail to you that Christ, Jehovah in the flesh, in a moment of human weakness, tried to abort the mission. ??? It was NOT God's will for Him to hang on a tree? I reiterate: He could have avoided the cross had He wanted: Matthew Chapter 26 53 Or...

Here and there over many years. The Impeccability of Christ

Is the text addressed to me? We are reading 'other people's mail' when reading the Bible, you know. :) Hodge's three simple rules: 1. The Scriptures are to be taken in the sense attached to them in the age and by the people to whom they were addressed. 2. Scripture cannot contradict...

IMO, insufficient data. What if she laid down in one time zone and woke up in another (like on a plane trip)? :)

...He was yet IMPECCABLE. He NEVER sinned, He did NOT ask amiss, He was NOT asking against God's will. He was asking for something that was perfectly within God's will.

Death. The grave. He could have avoided the cross had He wanted: Matthew Chapter 26 53 Or thinkest thou that I cannot beseech my Father, and he shall even now send me more than twelve legions of angels? But His mindset was to fulfill His mission: John Chapter 12 - 27 Now is my soul...

7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear, Heb 7 He was NOT trying to circumvent the cross, He was asking to be delivered from the grave...

…typical close minded 'anti-Pret'…. True to form the ‘heresy bird’ flys over and drops another splat on another thread.

OT Translations JPS Tanakh 1917 And when after my skin this is destroyed, Then without my flesh shall I see God;

In this instance: Job 19 - YLT 26 And after my skin hath compassed this [body], Then from my flesh I see God:

My apologies, Ben. if I've mistaken you for the typical close minded 'anti-Pret'.

Excellent article Tom. Excerpts: "...2. More importantly, the “see[ing] God” does not come “in” the flesh, but “from” the flesh. In other words, Job is not voicing a confidence that he will, in some future time, have a fleshly body with which he will see God. He is saying that even after his...

Lol, so? What?

Preservation, not perseverance.

ZACTLY!

ROFL!! Pot, meet kettle.

Have any examples for illustration? I would expect it's something that occurs naturally on it's own.