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They didn't just discourage - they actively forbade their people from reading the Bible until, possibly, 1962 and Vatican II. Have a read of some of this: The People’s Reformation (1) Setting the Scene and then, more particularly...

Oh, I'm sure the Moslems will open up a space for Catholics at the grand mosque in Mecca sometime soon. Not.

No and no (in that order ;)) First of all read John 10:17-18 and 12:23-33 because they come from John's Gospel. They show that the Lord Jesus came at the command of the Father to suffer and die upon the cross. Then read Isaiah 53:10; Mark 8:31-33; Acts 4:27-28 and Romans 3:25-26, which all show...

What I see is just a pile of cheap and silly insults which say more about you than they do about me, and a desperate attempt to turn the subject to General vs Particular Redemption rather than Penal Substitution.

It does if you add verses 26 and 28 which I also referenced Well in that case we should all be really pure, because there's a lot of blood being shed by evil men all over the world. But the Bible is quite clear that it was God who set the Lord Jesus forth as a propitiation (Rom 3:25) and that...

I think you'll find it does. ;) That is super! Why don't you tell us how you think it is done? This is gobbledegook. It may be your theory, but it is not the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. I have given a definition probably 20 times before on this board, but here we go again: The Doctrine...

Hebrews 9:22. In which case God cannot be just and the justifier of the one who believes in Jesus. If our Lord has not satisfied the justice and the righteous anger of God, you may be quite certain that you and I will have to do so ourselves.

Romans 3:24-26. ‘Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just...

A week or so ago, I promised to set out a text that proved the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. Out of the wide variety available, I selected Romans 3:25-26. Of course, when I did so it proved that simply giving the bare text would not be sufficient to satisfy the opponents of the Doctrine...

Yes, but people do not respond unless the Spirit opens their hearts to do so as I have shown you over and over again. 'Unless one is born again [or 'born from above'] he cannot see the kingdom of God.' How much say did you have in your first birth? The time, the place, your parents, your...

Hello Dave....., I don't have much time right now, but I will just say that, in common with many of the Puritans (Most notably William Perkins), I do not see regeneration as a one-off event, but rather as a process. I think it is clear that God must open the heart of someone before he can...

Because the Bible tells me that. You have been given numerous passages multiple times. Do you really need me to trot them out again? Once again, if God commanded men and women to walk on the ceiling or fly like Superman in order to be saved, then you might have a point. But His command is to...

Hebrews 1:1. 'God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things.' John 14:6. "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through...

I agree with @Zaatar71. It seems to me that Flowers is saying that people are not so bad or so blind, but can make up their own minds whether to trust in Christ or not. The question is, if they are not bad, why do they need Christ anyway? And yes, as @Paleouss says, Total Depravity is not...

@JonC, I really think you need to lie down in a darkened room for a while. You'll feel better in the morning.

I just finished reading this. Excellent! A very good summary of what a Biblical church should be. Thanks for linking it :)

This is correct. It's the only bit that is though.

I could have written all that (apart from the bit where you threw your toys out of the pram and accused me of lying) because I knew you were going to say it. But you have had to "expound the text" (or what passes for exposition in your case) because otherwise we can never resolve our...

No doubt it should be simple, but it won't be, because you won't accept it. That does not mean it's wrong; it just means that you don't understand it, or are so invested in your erroneous views that you cannot bring yourself to accept it.. But here we go then, for all the good it will do...

Just to be clear here, I never posted any passage that you were prepared to admit stated that the Lord Jesus experienced God's wrath. There is a difference.