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I don't think you'll find that we do.

It is a bad illustration because you do not know if I would be reconciled by a free lunch. We know that God is satisfied But perhaps the more important point is that the lunch is a propitiation, an offering to turn away righteous anger. In that you are correct. God set the Lord Jesus Christ...

Christ is the propitiation for our sins, and there is no other. Romans 3:25. [Christ Jesus] whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood.' There is no other name by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12) and there is no other way to be saved than through His blood shed for sinners on the...

Absolute garbage from start to finish.

Well it's a bad illustration. You do not know unless I tell you, whether a free lunch is going to be an acceptable propitiation for your deplorable behaviour towards me (actually, it probably is so long as it is preceded by an apology. I like lunches - especially free ones). But God tells us...

This is an example of you relying on nothing but Scripture, is it? :rolleyes: The lunch is an offering to turn away wrath, aka propitiation. But God is not to be propitiated by a free lunch (Hebrews 9:22), and in fact even the levitical sacrifices could not take away sins (Hebrews 10:4). They...

You may be interested to know that 'witches' were frequently drowned rather than burned. https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2022/02/swimming-a-witch-evidence-in-17th-century-english-witchcraft-trials/

OK; so you have the right to determine what I believe, and throw silly insults at me, but I do not have the right to do likewise/ Is that how it works when one debates with a staff member? Is that why @Zaatar71 has been prevented from posting on this thread? If you believe it, you don't...

This is something that has happened to me. I advise you to make a copy of everything you write on this board.

Clearly you haven't or you would not be wriggling and turning in a desperate attempt to avoid the truth. So what are you saying here? That our Lord was bearing our sins on a witch? Really? If you are trying to pretend that xulon does not mean a tree, it is very relevant. Look at Luke 23:31...

I know the effect on a baby that was baptized because it was me. It had no effect whatsoever. I grew up as an unbeliever, and when I was saved aged 39, I looked through the Bible to find infant 'baptism' and was unable to do so, so I was baptized as a believer in 1991. My mother was quite...

One of us rejects them, but I think you'll find (if God gives you eyes to see) that it's actually you. That is, of course, Hebrews 2:14-15. So how has Christ destroyed the devil and his works (1 John 3:8)? I don't think you know. This is your philosophy, but it is not what Scripture says...

Well that's it then. We're all doomed. 'The LORD ...... will not at all acquit the guilty' (Nahum 1:3). There is is; the plain words of God. End of story, so far as @JonC is concerned.

It seems hard for you to understand. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, and the New in Greek, but you have to resort to Latin to try (and fail) to give us the meaning. In fact, propitius is an adjective, not a noun, so in any case it cannot help us to find the meaning of hilasterion...

Romans 3:25. God set Him forth as a propitiation by His blood.' What do you think that means? Do you suppose that God is not propitiated by the death of Christ? Would that not suggest a serious failure on God's part in setting Him forth to no avail, and on Christ's part if the shedding of...

Never popular with Roman Catholics, Liberals, Pelagians or Mormons

Does 2 Corinthians say or suggest Christ is the means of reconciliation? Nope. 'That God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them...' We are saved by what Christ has done, not by what He might do, or what we might accept. 'He Himself bore our sins...

Christ is not the means of reconciliation - He is the reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:19).

Great stuff! Of course the Heidelberg catechism is a paedobaptist work. However, in 1680, a Baptist pastor called Hercules (!) Collins published a Baptist version of the Heidelberg, called the Orthodox Catechism. Highly recommended! Republished by Steve Weaver and MIchael Haykin (RBAP. ISBN...

This is nonsense, as I suspect you know. I just recommend people to read the links in post #127 and to note how many times I quote from Eamonn Duffy, a Roman Catholic historian.