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  1. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    I have not said anything remotely associated with "Christ dying spiritually" by a million miles that even a stupid fool could be confused about to wind up looking like a retard. So, your declaration of guessing wrong isn't exactly led by the Spirit of God.
  2. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    See post above JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL. Jesus was the Scapegoat Who Went "into the wilderness", to "a land not inhabited". "|And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of...
  3. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    The Eternal Death Jesus sensed was when He, as a Human being, was separated from the Father, saying, "My God, My God, why hath Thou Forsaken Me", while still United to The Infinite Eternal Being of the Son, the Second Person in the Triune Godhead, in Matthew 27:46, "And about the ninth hour...
  4. Alan Dale Gross

    Who has the authority to Baptise?

    Jesus' first church was an Organized Ruling body of Scripturally baptized believers, the Apostles/Disciples, made up of the Apostles/Disciples there in Jerusalem that John the Baptist had baptized, by the Authority of God. This was, of course, before the Day of Pentecost, at which time...
  5. Alan Dale Gross

    Who has the authority to Baptise?

    Sorry, I'm just seeing this: What needs to be reconciled is "the Great Commission was given, specifically, to the eleven remaining disciples", because all of the Apostles/Disciples had died and gone on to be with The Lord, which in that specific case would have left no one on Earth with any...
  6. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Yeah, and they are Doomed to suffer in the Lake of Fire, Forever. That is the reason I have a theory about how confused practically everyone is regarding the book of Revelation. Revelation describes the Doom of Satan. So, he goes about as a roaring lion seeking whose understanding of it he may...
  7. Alan Dale Gross

    Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks

    Now, I will challenge, using William Hendriksen's Classic, "More than Conqueror's"; this is the teaching of Revelation 20:4-6; "...the ‘thousand years’ of Revelation 20 have a Glorious meaning for God’s people on Earth. Nevertheless, the Glories of Heaven during this period far transcend those...
  8. Alan Dale Gross

    Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks

    Not in the least. Your verse follows 20:4, which depicts those in Heaven Reigning with Jesus for one thousand years as being exactly where it says they are: Heaven. No mention or suggestion or allusion to anything out the 'Earth', anywhere, for a reason; Jesus' Reign is taking place in Heaven...
  9. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    That's like saying "Jesus wasn't a thief", when used in the simile "as a thief in the night". "For yourselves know perfectly that the Day of the Lord so Cometh as a thief in the night", II Thessalonians 5:2. His Heart Melted like wax within Him Pslam 22:14; "I Am Poured Out like water, and...
  10. Alan Dale Gross

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Psalm 89 is "maschil", an Instructive Psalm, a Psalm causing to understand; it treats concerning the Covenant of Grace, and the Promises of it; and concerning the Mercy and Faithfulness of God, in Making and Keeping the same; and concerning the Messiah and His seed, His church and people; and...
  11. Alan Dale Gross

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    New thread: JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.
  12. Alan Dale Gross

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Adapted from; A Body of Doctrinal & Practical Divinity by John Gill Doctrinal Divinity~Book 5, Chapter 4: The Passive Obedience of Christ, or of his Sufferings and Death "Let us inquire into the Cause, Reason, and Occasion of the Sufferings and Death of Christ; and how He came to undergo them...
  13. Alan Dale Gross

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    I can see one reason why anyone would choose to deny "the faith once delivered to the saints", by attempting to substitute something else in the place of Psalm 89:38; "But Thou hast Cast Off and Abhorred, Thou hast been Wroth with Thine Anointed" (KJV), or in other words, "Thou hast been...
  14. Alan Dale Gross

    Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks

    I can't take the 'pre' or 'post' millennialist positions seriously, since there is no reference they can produce where Jesus is said to Reign on Earth for a Thousand-years/ a 'millennium', and with having no Biblical basis, they want to claim some belief that is obviously just imagined by the...
  15. Alan Dale Gross

    The Eternal Covenant of Grace.

    Where? Belief in God's Sovereignty includes believing and obeying what God has Revealed in His Word. There are nothing but problems with "hyper", but I don't think they could ever be 'justified' by alleging Gill led them there.* Now, if you want to check and see where it is that he may have...
  16. Alan Dale Gross

    The Eternal Covenant of Grace.

    provided one can not see, or choose to betray God's Word and not profess: And yet, they are predominantly a view of Scripture that Apostates will be hard-pressed to say that they have any knowledge of at all, and if called on to interpret them, will flop and flip like a chicken with its head...
  17. Alan Dale Gross

    The Eternal Covenant of Grace.

    These links refer to a substantial amount of information regarding The Eternal Covenant of Grace, of which the 'TULIP' teachings of the Doctrines of Grace are just a beginning, and are assumed (otherwise, they may be of little use, and all of these types of Glorious Revelations from God in His...
  18. Alan Dale Gross

    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    When we personally as individuals, were born dead in sin, Jesus had not only been our Surity, Responsible for Suffering the Punishment that our Guilt deserved for sinning against the Thrice Holy, Eternal, and Infinitely Perfect, Creator God of the Universe, but Jesus had already done so, as we...
  19. Alan Dale Gross

    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    The Elect were born Spiritually Dead, "in trespasses and sins", and were "the children of Wrath even as others", while in their Naturally Born State, as children of Adam. The souls of the Elect were 'generated' as Creations of God in their Natural (first) Birth, and had to be Spiritually...
  20. Alan Dale Gross

    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    In Eternity Past. "The Council before treated of, is the basis and foundation of the Covenant of Grace, and both relate to the same thing, and in which the same Persons are concerned. "In the former (the Eternal Council) things were contrived, planned, and advised; in the latter (The Council...
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