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    The Two Surrenders

    1) I cited Acts 20:21, Acts 11:18 and 2 Corinthians 7:10 because you listed them. Here is what you said: "Scripture presents repentance unto salvation as once‑for‑all (Acts 20:21, Acts 11:18, 2 Corinthians 7:10), and repentance in sanctification as ongoing (Revelation 2:5, Revelation 3:19, 1...
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    The Two Surrenders

    Repentance simply refers to an individual changing his or her mind and turning from a self directed life to a God directed life. I does NOT result automatically in any response by God. Act 20:21 Interpretive Translation solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance into (eis) God...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    I am not assuming, I am just reading scripture and accepting what it says. As far as I can tell, you reject that we, every human, is conceived in iniquity due to the Fall, the result of Adam's sin. But that is what Romans 5:19 clearly says. We were condemned already because of unbelief. John...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    1) "There is not a moment where we are made righteous unless we have been transferred into Christ and undergone the washing of regeneration. 2) "And we are not in Christ without being subsequently declared to be righteous after being made righteous by the washing of regeneration. 3) Yes, I...
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    The Two Surrenders

    1) Making non-specific reference to answers rather just quoting the sentence that answers the question is discouraging. 2) "Repentance unto salvation" again is non-specific. Committing to Christ, both in our belief He is God and Savior, and in our love and devotion to Christ as our Lord...
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    The Two Surrenders

    And the point I was trying to make is the only "condition" of salvation is to be transferred into Christ spiritually. Once "in Christ," always "in Christ." Lordship salvation differs from easy believism in that professing belief does NOT result in automatic salvation. Care to address that issue?
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    The Two Surrenders

    Salvation has three facets, Positional Sanctification, where God transfers the person's spirit into Christ. When and if this occurs, we are saved forever. Progressive Sanctification where we strive to follow Christ as our Lord, and earn rewards if our ministry yields eternal results -...
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    The Two Surrenders

    We should be wary of definitions of doctrines provided by opponents. Does "Lordship Salvation" say if we backslide, we are no longer saved. That our salvation depends of us? When we put our faith, devotion and trust in Christ, we commit to making Him lord of our life. That commitment must be...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    Then you seem to agree with the order posted, a person's faith is "declared" (credited) as righteousness. Then the person is transferred spiritually into Christ. Then, after entering Christ, they undergo the washing of regeneration, which justifies them, removing any consequence of sin with the...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    Galatians 3:8 NASB The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the]Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” Interpretive Translation Old Testament Scripture accurately indicated that God would justify (make righteous)...
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    Have You Ever Attended...

    Yes, my wife's mother was a practicing Catholic, and so I recall attending more than one service. I was not a fan of all the ritual, but was impressed with the level of commitment exhibited by many of those attending. I believe the Catholic church is riddled with false doctrine, but also...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    I am not sure I understand what you meant by "the order in declaring one just." The order I believe to be correct is: 1) A lost unjustified, unregenerate, un-chosen for salvation, sinner hears the gospel and understands it because it is spiritual milk and his or her heart has not been...
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    Galatians 3 - Christ being made a curse

    If we are to study Galatians 3:8, we must look at the Greek word meanings and assess just how to best translate the verse. Prooraō (G4275) is a compound word meaning "before" and "know or perceive." It does not suggest looking into a crystal ball and seeing the future, or time travel to bring...
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    Hi Everybody. New Member Here.

    Many of us hold firmly to what we were initially taught, and exhibit hostility to those presenting alternate views. The SBC has a Calvinist wing, and a larger Non-Calvinist wing. These folks , which includes yours truly, sometimes disparage others. On the other hand, if you have an open...
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    No of course not! Two verses say Christ paid the ransom for many, and one verse says Christ paid the ransom for all. Because He paid the ransom for all, that includes the many. On the other hand, if He paid the ransom for many but not all, then that interpretation nullifies scripture. A no-no.
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    1) Yes, the New Covenant is foreshadowed in the Old Testament. The Old Covenant does not provide reconciliation, only the New Covenant accomplishes that promised blessing. 2) PSA is false doctrine. When an individual is transferred into Christ, they undergo the washing of regeneration, and...
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    When the same word is used to indicate two very different results, confusion arises.
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    1) “Then Aaron shall offer the bull as the sin offering, which is for himself, so that he may make atonement for himself and for his household. Should be translated as "may make a temporary covering for himself and for his household. Kaphar does NOT provide "atonement" as described in Romans...
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    1) Yes, I meant G2643, as used in Romans 5:11. 2) No, the New Covenant is not in the Old Covenant. That is why the OT saints were made perfect only under the New Covenant, and NOT under the Old Covenant. 3) No, nothing is scripture is in "favor" of false doctrine, certainly not PSA...
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    Our Word, frequently translated as "atonement" needs to well understood if we are to understand the gospel of Christ. The Hebrew word appears about 103 times in the Old Testament, so its meaning is confined to the Old Covenant, not the New Covenant. That is why translating the Old Covenant word...
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