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    The Apostles: The Biblical Pattern

    See, I am not sure what you believe about the church. You and I may not be defining it the same way. I am left guessing. You may be thinking in terms of local congregations of believers with each manifesting all these gifts at all times. I am thinking in terms of the one body and that is the...
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    The Apostles: The Biblical Pattern

    I am making my conclusions on the basis that apostles and prophets and pastor teachers had particular ministry credentials. The evangelist had none. Philip was definitely not the apostle Philip, otherwise it would render as insane the reasoning for appointing him as a helper with the widows when...
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    The Apostles: The Biblical Pattern

    I believe there are only three God ordained offices in the New Testament era thus maintaining the trinitarian fingerprint of God on the church. They are apostles, prophets, and pastors. It is not hard to see that the main calling for the apostle and prophet was evangelism and church planting...
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    The Apostles: The Biblical Pattern

    What we learn from the New Testament epistles is that they are given for the purpose of explaining the history of the Acts, the beginning of a new age. The Acts is a bridge to transition us across from OT economies to the NT economy. The Acts notes differences but does not necessarily attempt to...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    It is not good wisdom to take the most obscure passages of scripture to interpret the most clear passages, IMO. At the end of the day, so to speak, there are only 12 apostles in this apostolic group and a fixed number for eternity. What would be expected that Luke would called this group of 12...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    Just a couple more thoughts here on the use of the word apostle. How does the text make this clear? This book of Acts is primarily a history book. It is what happened, what is said. Luke mentions two men as apostles. One of them is not in doubt as an actual apostle. The Holy Ghost calls out...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    I do not think I am assuming anything. I am reading the word apostle from the scriptures. It is used in a certain context in the scriptures. Certain powers and spiritual gifts are associated with this office that are not associated with other believers. They are kingdom signs because apostle is...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    If you would have shown that everyone whom God has sent forth for a purpose is commonly called in the scripture record an apostle, or if you could quote anywhere the word apostle was used as you suggest you would have a stronger argument, but you didn't, and there is a reason you didn't, it is...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    It is reasonable to believe that John ministered to the same people and in the same area after the destruction of Jerusalem and dispersion of Israel from the land in AD 70 that he had before, which included Ephesus. There would have been no one for an apostle to preach to in Israel. John wrote...
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    Peter In Rome: A Historical and Scriptural Examination

    It seems to me that none of the apostles went west with Paul who is uniquely the "apostle to the gentiles." Silas, a prophet and one of the 70 elders was chosen to accompany him. God would send Paul to Europe with the gospel but it was established in the first missionary trip Paul and Barnabas...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    Here are excerpts from Ps 90 praying to Adonay, who is elohym 1. A Prayer of Moses the man of God. Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations. (this tells me there is more than one generation) Next , he says God is eternal, from everlasting to everlasting and not restricted by...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    This response is much too vague to gender a response at this time except to say that Jesus said to the woman at the well that "salvation is of the Jews." Acts 2:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    The fullness of the time was the generation of Jesus Christ. Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. The fulness of the time is a...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    There are 4 (four) great prophetic streams in the scriptures. All will come to pass just as the Lord tells us and in the time frame told to us by the prophets. Nothing will fail. Here they are: 1. The Kingdom of Christ 2) The remnant of Israel 3) The two comings of Christ, once to suffer and...
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    The Golden Rule Of Interpretation

    I think one of the key points in the text is a contrast between the simple gospel of Christ which requires no study or brilliance. It requires hearing and believing. Even a child can understand the preaching of the gospel and be saved from the penalty of his sins. Not so with the "mysteries"...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    It is the ""book" of the generation of Jesus Christ. Every word of God is important. The genealogy of Jesus Christ into humanity is in the book, but that is not all that is in it. His story is in it.
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Jesus Christ did not have any children and that is the reason generation is singular in the passage. He is dealing here with one generation. There is much to be said about this generation because he was the...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    Complaint noted, thanks.
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    Things that are recorded here concerning the Messiah of Israel regarding their response nationally to him will in the near future become an opportunity of the gentiles with the remnant of believing Israelites for a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ. These will be born again...
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    The Generation of Jesus Christ - What It Means

    The scriptures presents the Messiah of Israel, our Lord Jesus Christ, to Israel in three offices. Prophet - Pictured by Moses Priest - Pictured by Aaron King - Pictured by David These offices are fulfilled concurrently by Jesus Christ in time. When he came the first time to his own people (Jn...
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