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If Jesus Christ rose from the dead on the first day of the week like the scripture says then he laid in the tomb all the 24 hours of the sabbath day, which is the seventh and last day of the week. He gives us the times. He dismissed his spirit at three o'clock in the afternoon on crucifixion day...

The 4 gospels have a total of 89 chapter, Matthew 28 Mark 16 Luke 24 John 21 Total 89 Jesus came to Jerusalem in these chapters to be crucified. Matthew 21 = 8 Chapters Mark 11 = 6 Chapters Luke 19 = 6 Chapters John 12 = 9 Chapters Total...

@Mike B. you might want to examine how well these systematic books have produced what God desires. That command is given in 1 Corinthians 1:10 in the 4th epistle that Paul wrote to the churches. Here it is. 1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye...

When did the church begin? That seems to be the question of the op. What role did Jesus have in the beginning of the church? The better question may be "what is the church?" I think it would be a problem to get a consensus on the definition of the church among the Baptists on this website. There...

Yes, I agree and it is wrong to do it and I apologize for it. I have tried to keep this from sounding argumentative and have approached the question of when the church of Jesus Christ began from my understanding of the scriptures. I have refrained from addressing your points to a large extent...

The stone was tested and tried during the time of Jesus on earth. That is what the scriptures teach, The church is called a building, a temple for the Holy Ghost and is said to be laid upon the Jewish foundationwith a Jewish beginning. It had to be laid upon a stone. Isaiah 28:14 Wherefore...

In construction, being the cornerstone means being the very first, strongest, and most vital stone placed at the junction of two walls. It serves as the exact reference point for the entire layout, ensuring the building is square, level, and structurally aligned. Physical and Structural Role...

Ps 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. He has always been the stone but he has not always been the stone of the corner until the beginning of the building. The wise man built his house upon a Rock. Lu 6:48 He is like a man which built an house...

One church body: 1 Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. Note: We are told Christ is a body fashioned with many members. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be...

Time lines in the scriptures are very important. For instance the apostles, a position that is first associated with the earthly kingdom of Israel, along with the 70 prophets have a kingdom context in their being chosen. They were appointed to, and are going to, sit on twelve thrones judging the...

I will give you more passages that tells us the church began after the resurrection of Jesus Christ but it will not change your mind and you will not believe it. Your mind is made up and I can see that. Acts 11:1 And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also...

Baptist Debate Forums (Baptist Only) Baptists settled the baptism question long ago and this subject may be the only biblical subject that is not open for debate among us. Philip had just been to Samaria preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified as the way of salvation. They believed the...

So the original question remains. Where does Scripture state that the church began at the resurrection? Not infer it. Not imply it. Not build a chain of reasoning. State it. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all...

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. This is not a church, it is THE church of Jesus Christ and the only way to enter in is through Jesus Christ. and this context tells us that...

JD, I’m going to stay strictly on the point I made. I said Scripture never states that the church began at the resurrection. You replied, “Actually, I think it does more than one time.” If that is the case, then please show the verse. I am not sure why the original thread was unceremoniously...

Actually, I think it does more than one time. First, the op makes the case that the choosing of the apostles was the beginning of the church because it is a called out assembly and is the time of the commissioning of the twelve apostles, though one was a devil. This logic comes, at least in...

According to your reasoning the history of the church should record occasions for the exercise of the word of wisdom gift. Also the word of knowledge Also the gift of faith Also the gifts of healing Also the working of miracles Also prophecy Also discerning spirits Also different kinds of...

Please don't be upset but there were 2500 years Adam to Moses without a single miracle. Since the apostolic era ended in 70 AD with the death of the apostles and the dispersion of the nation Israel there has not been a single miracle performed by a man. The epistles were written to instruct the...

Hi Ascetic Xl. I know this is shocking to learn. How many Christians do you know personally who have done mighty miracles? They were raising the dead during the apostolic era. Who do you know who has been raised from the dead and who it was who raised them? God does many more miraculous works...

Actually I did not assert that miracles ended with what I call the kingdom. I do not believe that at all. What I asserted is that men are not empowered by God to work miracles after the apostolic age. I asserted that men did not work miracles at any time before Moses. Few people in history have...